Mo vs Semmy: Who takes it?

[( o Y o )]

and explain yourself dammit!!

[Toffa]

Semmy because he is actually a skilled fighter. I will be so disapointed if Semmy loses because, while I have nothing against Mo, he is just not very good. He has that overhand right and thats it! Thats the perfect punch to take out Semmy though. Sefo landed it on Semmy and Mo landed it on Choi, so its a dangerous matchup nonetheless.

[xavion]

Sem is too good to get creamed by the overhand right...

[( o Y o )]

You are right in that it is a dangerous fight for both. I think Mo's left, particularly to the body is being underrated, and Semmy has a lot of body to hit.

But then Sefo landed his shot because he was agile enough to work angles while Mo always throws his Korean Killer front right in front. It is not far from his head leaning down to get power in that punch and Semmy's knee, and I think he will eat it if he gets in punching range.

It would make this year exciting if Mo does pull it off though. I think there would be a huge difference in the expectations for the GP this year if Semmy was to get thoroughly beaten once before the show.

I still believe Mo might have hurt his left hand punching War at Dynamite.....so if he has only one weapon he is in serious trouble.

You'd be stupid to count Mo out, but I think Semmy should really take this.

Having said that, I loted for JLB and Sefo to win and I have a habit of killing the guy I vote for by...well....voting for them. lol

[K-1 Extremist]

Semi is going to take it by using his range and a lazy front kick to keep Mo off him for three rounds. I predict three round decision, a real sleeper.

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

It is a good match up. Mo has been fighting a lot of tall guys.

The thing is that Sem is the champ and is a pretty decent kicker, a fighter type that has always given Mo trouble.

Overall, Sem is the favorite, but Mo is by no means defenseless or unable to hurt his opponent.

[K-1 Extremist]

Semmy because he is actually a skilled fighter. I will be so disapointed if Semmy loses because, while I have nothing against Mo, he is just not very good. He has that overhand right and thats it! Thats the perfect punch to take out Semmy though. Sefo landed it on Semmy and Mo landed it on Choi, so its a dangerous matchup nonetheless.

In Mo's defense, his low kick defense is definitely above average. You wouldn't think it but he defends them well and usually follows with a big counter.

[( o Y o )]

I knew Heckyl would be reppin' MO!!

[redsquareblackbox]

Mo is a capable fighter. That's a fact. A certain look and style shouldn't taint anyone's picture of him.

Semmy may distance himself with kicks, something the rigid, plodding choi could not do.

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

In Mo's defense, his low kick defense is definitely above average. You wouldn't think it but he defends them well and usually follows with a big counter.

If Sem depended on low kicks, yeah Mo's defense might be a pretty good factor. But, Sem is a work horse who will push the action non-stop with a wide variety of techniques.

[Dormath]

Semmy will land a knee when mo is looking for the right. Like (oYo) said Sefo landed cause of his movment.

[( o Y o )]

anyone know who Mo is training with for this?

[K-1 Extremist]

anyone know who Mo is training with for this?

If you tell me and he's in SOCAL I'll take a trip over to the gym and see about getting you some pictures. Me and Mo both live in San Bernardino, CA! I should check the phone book for a listing.

[( o Y o )]

I have no clue where he is training right now.

[Lawrence Tierney]

I agree that Semmy is a strong favorite with his kicks and his workrate. A big puncher like Mo has a chance, but I think he'll eat a lot of those size 15 feet.

[majorcunningham]

i am starting a new (and foolish) policy of always backing against schilt starting today...

as excellent as he is, im really bored of him winning at this point...

i can only justify myself by saying that HMC was great practice for schilt and that Mo will win by ko with an overhand right in the first...

WAR MO MO!!!

[meathead]

Mo will clip Semmy with the big one. Semmy has shown that if he's hit right, that he can be taken down. Nortje did it and so did Sefo. My vote is for Mo who has been very active recently. Semmy will also have ring rust going in.

[tonypol]

my vote is for semmmy ,because he is a complete fighter ,i think he will kill mo with the kicks ....only mo chance is the right overhand ...but semmy is not choi ...so semmy by ko /tko round 2-3 .

[( o Y o )]

Mo will clip Semmy with the big one. Semmy has shown that if he's hit right, that he can be taken down. Nortje did it and so did Sefo. My vote is for Mo who has been very active recently. Semmy will also have ring rust going in.


Welcome aboard.

For K-1's sake, let's hope you are right. The difference may be as big as whether they hold it in the Tokyo Dome or a different venue.

[RedHawk]

I voted for Semmy. I think he will be the busier fighter and his shots will be more accurate. As long as he keeps his right hand up when throwing knees in close, he should have no problem getting the W.

[Blindo]

Sem will win imo. He won't make the same mistakes like Choi.

[sparkles]

It all depends in what mood both fighters come in the ring. Mo will be very motivated that he has a change to face the champ of champs and he will be looking to secure the biggest win in his carreer.
Semmy has a tremendous workrate and good or great kicks, good jab, deadly knees and so on but he still looks terribly clumsy when they start swinging for his head. Ok Nortje and Iggy had him down, but they have the reach to do so.
Mo, on the other hand, has the advantage of a very good timed right and the fact that he's facing an opponent who is a big target and who has a bad punching-defense.
If Schilt starts tentative, he can fall victim to Mo his right. Mo his presence in the ring seems to be enough to make his opponents tentative.

[K1power]

I voted Semmy for he is the rightful K-1 champ and versatile kickboxer and he should beat the lesser fighter... Although Mo is always dangerous with his right hand that's the only thing he's got and Sem will be prepared good enough to avoid it I think...

[El Presidente]

Semmy's been dropped but not KTFO yet. His KO loss against Iggy was just a gross underestimation of Absolut Scorpion at the time. He's improved a lot sinc then... hell he's taken a CLEAN Brazilian kick to the jaw and remained standing. So we'll see what Mo can do...

Sem will know too well that the BIG overhand is Mo's main weapon (kinda like Genki's backfist). If he's prepared for it and Mo runs out of ideas... well...

[sparkles]

Well yeah ... everyone who faces Mo knows that but still he manages to land it. Also Schilt ain't a boxer. A boxer can easily see the right hand coming, but a karateka won't be able to read it as well. Additional to that Mo does have a great timing and delivers it very quickly.
Sem is still the favourite though ... as usually.

[Shinbone]

When Semmy is healthy this shouldn't be too difficult for him. Although one thing is for sure. Mighty Mo is always dangerous, till the very last minute.

Schilt win this fight because of his front teeps. Front kicks are hard to defend, I don't know if Mo has the tools to deal with them.
Furthermore, Schilt has an iron jab ( left straight) to keep Mo at bay. Sefo has the quickness and combinations to surprise Schilt. Mo doesn't posesess that.

Schilt doesn't want to many risks, so I expect a decision win for Semmy.

[Anjew]

Semmy will manage. Sefo is better than Mo and could not do it. I think Sem by dec. Will stay clear of Mo's right hand and that is enough to win on points.

Deep in my heart I would like Mo to get a sensational win though... ;)

[timmothy84]

I voted for mo ,because I like mo. Semmy will win though, but I like to see Mo Sneak a win a suprising 2nd round KO.

[Shinbone]

I voted for mo ,because I like mo. Semmy will win though, but I like to see Mo Sneak a win a suprising 2nd round KO.

The question is: who will win? Not, who do you want to win.

[timmothy84]

The question is: who will win? Not, who do you want to win.

sorry. Semmy will win....but I want Mo to win

[Shinbone]

sorry. Semmy will win....but I want Mo to win

Yes mate, but you voted for Mo, while you think Semmy wins it?

[timmothy84]

Yes mate, but you voted for Mo, while you think Semmy wins it?

my heart got in the way of my vote.. for give me.

[sparkles]

I voted Schilt, but I think Mo will win.

[Grant Ellis]

PANCRASE FTW

[depechemode]

Sem by KO

[K-1 Extremist]

Rickson by armbar! Believe.

[( o Y o )]

If Mo wins, I don't think Semmy's belt will go around his waist.

[emanuel]

I am pretty sure that Semmi will win. But I also hope that Semmi will win. I never understood why many people hate Schilt. It seems to me pointless and stupid. Saying that Mo will win only because you hate Semmi is so moronic.
Mo has a very slim chance to beat Schilt - yeah, he defeated Nortje and choi, but both of them can't compare with Semmi. On the other hand, Schilt koed Sefo.
So, Schilt will win by ko, unless we are for a big surprise. Nonetheless, it will be a very entertaining match (like most of Schilt's fights)

[Caesar]

The question is: who will win? Not, who do you want to win.

This is a good point. I had been holding off voting until I read this - Schilt takes it.

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

Rickson by armbar! Believe.

You wanna get banned?
This ain't Sherdog. Pretending to be a kid, asking infantile questions, stating incorrect stats, crying to the mods: these things are not tolerated for long. Watch yourself.

[Viva Las Vegas]

I just hope Mo can last long enough to get as many chances to take Semmy out. Just because Ray is better than Mo doesn't meen that Mo is less dangerous. I haven't seen Ray blow anybody up with one shot in awhile (ok, Kareav) but Mo has done it again and again to people that know it is coming. Remember when Hunt went 5 boring rounds vs Goodridge, Mo walked through Gary in 1 round like he was fighting someone on a message board. So saying Mo isn't as good as these other K-1 vets isn't really the point, the point is he has a HUGE weapon and insanely fast trigger time with it so he is a total landmine to any fighter.

[El Presidente]

My crystal balll says Mo will score a knockdown against Schilt... who will then recover and proceed to beat the tar out of him and force a TKO...

[Titan]

The only way Mo can win is by the overhand right. And he'll only get that one to connect by Schilt being careless. Without it, there's no way he's winning the fight. Schilt has been knocking people out for years now. He's good at keeping his distance and using the height and reach advantage, but he's knocked fighters out at every distance using everything from jabs to knees. Schilt getting careless and letting his hands down while inviting Mo in at close distance, that could cost him the fight. That's him losing the fight rather than Mo winning it. I don't think that's going to happen. I think he'll keep Mo at bay (all he needs to do is keep his hands up and head protected, really), and I think that with his power, there's a good chance Schilt knocks Mo out.

[emanuel]

I completelly agree with Titan. Yes, is true that Mo has a powerfull weapon - his overhand right. Unfortunately for him, that's (almost) the only weapon he has. Yes, he knocked out choi, nortje, Goodridge, Kim, BUT : all of them are :
- slow
- have bad defence
- they only have a weapon too - their fists - a category at that Mo outclass them
None of the above apply to Schilt. When Mo faced a technical fighter with good defence, he lost - against bonjasky and Aerts.
Schilt fought against Sefo and Le Bannere - both of them have tremendous power in their punches, plus they have great skills, are much faster and Le bannere is even taller than Mo. Not counting that both are legends in k-1. But Schilt defeated both of them, more, he KD Le bannere and left Sefo cold out.
So, unless Schilt will be very careless, he will win for sure. Mo has a very slim chance of winning.

[El Presidente]

I see a big high kick from Schilt being the significant blow of the fight.

[AKA]

My fan point of view: I'd like Mo to win coz I dont enjoy Sem fighting style...

[MZN]

My fan point of view: I'd like Sem to win because I don't enjoy Mo's fighting style...

I corrected that sentence for you :P

[AKA]

^^ haha ;)
My english sucks bro, thx a lot :)

[Viva Las Vegas]

Remember he blew through Botha, of course he's not top K-1 guy, but still very well versed in defense against the hands. Semmy just uses that damn front kick so well (bores me to death) if Mo and his team solve how to avoid getting pushed back in distance it could be good. Otherwise a very boring safe fight from Semmy. woops - qooute should be first...
I completelly agree with Titan. Yes, is true that Mo has a powerfull weapon - his overhand right. Unfortunately for him, that's (almost) the only weapon he has. Yes, he knocked out choi, nortje, Goodridge, Kim, BUT : all of them are :
- slow
- have bad defence
- they only have a weapon too - their fists - a category at that Mo outclass them
None of the above apply to Schilt. When Mo faced a technical fighter with good defence, he lost - against bonjasky and Aerts.
Schilt fought against Sefo and Le Bannere - both of them have tremendous power in their punches, plus they have great skills, are much faster and Le bannere is even taller than Mo. Not counting that both are legends in k-1. But Schilt defeated both of them, more, he KD Le bannere and left Sefo cold out.
So, unless Schilt will be very careless, he will win for sure. Mo has a very slim chance of winning.

[Lawrence Tierney]

I don't think Mo's tko of Botha says much except that Botha made a big mistake trying to throw a round house kick for the first time ever. He made the beginner's mistake of dropping both his hands when he threw the kick and set himself up for a counter by the guy that specializes in counterpunches. Botha has been on the "sparring for a paycheck" program for a while now.

[Long Fist]

It would be embarrashing if Mo would win, because he's a boxer specialized at fighting kick boxers. If he would be the number 1 HW "kickboxer" there would be loads of fighters, boxers who would handle the champ with ease.

But anyway, I expect Schilt to win, for reasons and with techniques already outlined.

[Viva Las Vegas]

I don't think Mo's tko of Botha says much except that Botha made a big mistake trying to throw a round house kick for the first time ever. He made the beginner's mistake of dropping both his hands when he threw the kick and set himself up for a counter by the guy that specializes in counterpunches. Botha has been on the "sparring for a paycheck" program for a while now.

Botha wasn't throwing that lazy kick all three times he went down.

[Shinbone]

I here everybody complain about Sem's front kicks ( teeps). He is almost the only heavy weight fighter in K-1 that use it effectively. Front kicks are a magnificant weapon, often considered as the 'jab' of a kick/thai boxer.
It's a shame that so many top ranked fighters hardly make them and if they make them they aren't the level of Schilt's ones.

Front kicks are hard to defend and can take your breath away as well. And can be risky for the kicker as well if one kicks on an elbow for instance.

I wonder why fighters like Aerts and LeBanner doesn't use them more.
Front kicks higher up the chest of your opponent may let him fall back wards and gives you, when you have stamina problems, some releaf.

Front kicks you can also aim for the liver, like Schilt does and of course at the plexus or head even the thighs.

Come on heavy weight fighters use your front kicks more often!

[Shinbone]

Botha wasn't throwing that lazy kick all three times he went down.

Nope, but I think he still felt dizzy from the first one.

[Long Fist]

I here everybody complain about Sem's front kicks ( teeps). He is almost the only heavy weight fighter in K-1 that use it effectively. Front kicks are a magnificant weapon, often considered as the 'jab' of a kick/thai boxer.
It's a shame that so many top ranked fighters hardly make them and if they make them they aren't the level of Schilt's ones.

Front kicks are hard to defend and can take your breath away as well. And can be risky for the kicker as well if one kicks on an elbow for instance.



indeed.

but my impression is, that the karate front kick, "mae geri", has a bit different mechanics and function than thai teep. Teep is often more like a push, when karate front kick is intended to cause damage from impact.

Anyway, a slow and sloppy back leg roundhouse kick can be countered by just moving forward and punch the kicker's head a la Mo, but it doesn't work against front kick.

[Shinbone]

Yes, kyukushin mae geri are on of the best. Like I said, the front kick can both be used as a push kick and a damaging kick.

Superb weapon.

[Cracked_Knuckle]

Ima go with Mo. That mofo has to be nice and lubed up after all the fighting hes doing recently, and Semmy got floord his last fight too. I prey for the Mo.

[Viva Las Vegas]

Mo reminds me when I first saw Bernardo, head hunting swinging for the fences style. Exciting for sure.

[sparkles]

I expect nothing less then a KO in this one. If Mo wins it will be by KO because that's the only chance he has vs the duracell machine Schilt. I noticed that Mo is dropping his hands again and that's dangerous vs a guy that can kick. Pitschkounov hit him a few times in the head, that's worrying especially because he was downed by the first kick. Schilt kicks well and his kicks come pretty horizontally because he's so tall. If Schilt wins I think it will be by KO as well. A knee or a kick... unless he's really super cautious and just wants to secure a win on points ... whcih would surprise me because he's fighting in his homecountry.