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K1power
11th June 2007, 09:38 PM
Fred Royers just mentioned on Eurosport that it's most likely that Sapp will replace Bonjasky against Aerts!

K-1 Extremist
11th June 2007, 09:57 PM
OMG. Bob Sapp is going to die. Really. I don't think he will survive this fight. Peter Aerts doesn't put up with bullshit.

K1power
11th June 2007, 09:58 PM
Although some people here will disagree with me, if this fight is to happen I'm pretty excited!

walker
11th June 2007, 10:02 PM
Would have preferred Sefo, to be honest. Sapp has no chance.

K1power
11th June 2007, 10:14 PM
Would have preferred Sefo, to be honest. Sapp has no chance.

Off course Sefo would have been the best choice in my opinion, but Sapp is an okay substitute I think.

K-1 Extremist
11th June 2007, 10:22 PM
Off course Sefo would have been the best choice in my opinion, but Sapp is an okay substitute I think.

With Sapp Peter Aerts is guaranteed a stunning KO victory. If he were to fight Sefo, it very well might have gone to a decision (and a BS one at that) much as it did the first time they fought. All Ray did for three rounds was showboat.

Viva Las Vegas
11th June 2007, 10:28 PM
Hopefully Ray will be in Vegas for August then.

K1power
11th June 2007, 10:31 PM
With Sapp Peter Aerts is guaranteed a stunning KO victory. If he were to fight Sefo, it very well might have gone to a decision (and a BS one at that) much as it did the first time they fought. All Ray did for three rounds was showboat.

You saying that Ray can't defeat Aerts?

K-1 Extremist
11th June 2007, 10:43 PM
You saying that Ray can't defeat Aerts?

He can and he did when they fought last, but it was a bogus decision. Peter did a lot more in the match. Ray was sluggish and resorting to antics for the rounds and that's what got the judge's nod. I think Peter can take out Ray in a rematch, but it'd be a decision. With Sapp, it's a guaranteed KO.

Shinbone
11th June 2007, 11:52 PM
I heard it too. Im pretty excited about this one as well.
I hope this is going to be a real match, and not a fake thing.

Somehow Aerts always have been vunerable to big punchers, Sapp is one, so on paper he could be dangerous for Peter the Great.

I think Bob Sapp has to fear for his life there in Amsterdam. The audience haven't forgotten last year.

AKA
12th June 2007, 12:04 AM
I cant beleive it, simon Rutz will kill Sapp if he even put a foot in Holland!

K1power
12th June 2007, 12:32 AM
I don't think that Rutz has much of a say in this matter as in if he doesn't agree with FEG he'll lose the license to hold official K-1 events...

Lord Gaul
12th June 2007, 01:03 AM
To me Sapp kind of owes Simon so if he ends up fighting Aerts on short notice that would make it even in my book.

( o Y o )
12th June 2007, 04:53 AM
To me Sapp kind of owes Simon so if he ends up fighting Aerts on short notice that would make it even in my book.

I think FEG kinda owes them both

CentralKickboxing.Org
12th June 2007, 05:16 AM
With Sapp Peter Aerts is guaranteed a stunning KO victory. If he were to fight Sefo, it very well might have gone to a decision (and a BS one at that) much as it did the first time they fought. All Ray did for three rounds was showboat.

Peter knocked out Ray the first time with low kicks.

Dormath
12th June 2007, 05:57 AM
Sapp is alwas a dangerous fight for anybody, and Aerts is not as fast as he use to be.

Aerts should still win but sapp aint no joke two beat sapp u have to Hit HARD (JLB, SEFO) or be very fast and agile (Cro Cop, Remy)

K-1 Extremist
12th June 2007, 06:30 AM
Or just last through the first 30 second bullrush until he gases.

Jofeljoh!
12th June 2007, 08:05 AM
Lol I was just joking about Sapp as a replacement but if it's real... well, prepare for retirement Sapp, and don't expect a pleasant welcome in Amsterdam :o

majorcunningham
12th June 2007, 08:25 AM
Or just last through the first 30 second bullrush until he gases.

i think sapp has a marginally better shot at victory than you're giving him, there are worse fighters out there after all and he has genuine ko power...

i think he'll crumble to low kicks in the second round tho...

El Presidente
12th June 2007, 09:37 AM
Lets just hope that the upsets for 2007 dont carry into this fight.... shit happens my friends...

Shinbone
12th June 2007, 10:56 AM
I think Sapp is more affraid of the outcome of the fight then Aerts. Fear is never a good adviser.

MZN
12th June 2007, 12:41 PM
I am so sceptical I'd be able to offer a large range of forfeits I'll undertake if this fight happens.

Fortunately I can restrain myself not to and will just wait until the faithful day to see if it does indeed.

Anjew
12th June 2007, 02:29 PM
Peter should win it by TKO, but no one should underestimate Sapp. Peter's chin is not fantastic and one desperate power punch from Sapp can end it too. But that's why it is always interesting to watch the Beast fighting. Good matchup.

Shinbone
12th June 2007, 04:06 PM
I think Aerts' chin is above average. He got only KO'ed or TKO'ed by Leko, Abidi, 2 x Bernardo, LeBanner by blows to the head.

The Leko KO was combination of tiredness. When he fought Abidi he suffered from neck and back trouble. The first time he got KO'ed by Bernardo was because he had a stomach infection and was really sick. The other was legit.
The Lebanner KO was legit too.

So to say his chin is not fantastic simply doesn't appear fromhis record. More than 120 fights and only got KO'ed by blows to the head I think 5 times. Not bad I think.

El Presidente
12th June 2007, 05:20 PM
Jan Wessells gave Aerts the first KTFO of his career - a few years before K-1 with a left hook in the 3rd or 4th round.

Also Aerts quit in the 3R of his first fight with Ernesto in 1989. He took a standing 8-count after some stinging low kicks.

K-1 Extremist
12th June 2007, 06:06 PM
^

I've noticed when watching him fight that he tends not to defend low kicks much. He just eats them. Against a guy like Hoost that's a bad policy.

K1power
12th June 2007, 06:24 PM
^

I've noticed when watching him fight that he tends not to defend low kicks much. He just eats them. Against a guy like Hoost that's a bad policy.

Trough the years his thighs have gotten so invulnerable to lowkicks I don't think anyone can take him out on them. I only saw him semi-hurt by lowkicks one time and that was against lowkickmonster Lloyd van Dams after like 50 lowkicks and that was 5-10 years ago!

K-1 Extremist
12th June 2007, 06:47 PM
Lloyd van Dams was the large black guy he fought in 1999 or something, right? If that's the same dude, that dude was throwing some mean low kicks and I really thought at one point he would win the fight by them. Peter checked little, if any, of those.

RedHawk
12th June 2007, 07:00 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Sapp came out of this fight the winner. Stranger things have happened.

K1power
12th June 2007, 08:04 PM
Aerts is the clear favorite in this fight, but you just can't take Sapp lightly!

Long Fist
12th June 2007, 09:33 PM
Aerts is just the kind of guy who should survive Sapp under K-1 rules, big enough and able to tie up the Beast and then just take the legs away with low kicks. Like Iggy.

Actually I don't think this is a match Bob Sapp should be fighting; he could be a major force in MMA, just if his heart would be in to it, but it's not, the impression one gets is that he's never taken this whole fighting business as a serious sport worth of dedication, in comparition to "foot ball" aND basketball.

He's just been fooling around and adapted to the role or act he's been offered, and, with the helping hand from Kakuda &c got dubious wins ....


but if one looks his match against Nogueira, I can't help thinking that a match , say, between Tim Sylvia and prepared Bob Sapp would be very interesting indeed.

Shinbone
12th June 2007, 09:37 PM
Jan Wessells gave Aerts the first KTFO of his career - a few years before K-1 with a left hook in the 3rd or 4th round.

Also Aerts quit in the 3R of his first fight with Ernesto in 1989. He took a standing 8-count after some stinging low kicks.

About Jan Wessels I didn't know that, but Aerts at that time was maybe 20 years or something.

About the Hoost fight in 1989, I meant KO or TKO'ed by blows to the head. Not doctor stoppages, cuts, injuries or what so ever.

El Presidente
12th June 2007, 09:38 PM
I only saw him semi-hurt by lowkicks one time and that was against lowkickmonster Lloyd van Dams after like 50 lowkicks and that was 5-10 years ago!

Sam Greco came pretty close to working Aerts over with Low kicks in their 2nd fight. You can see by the high kick Aerts KOed Greco with that his balance was off (due to the leg kicks)

And Hell. LVD has even had Hoost hurting from low kicks. Those kicks played some role in Hoosts performance against LeBanner in the following fight.

Shinbone
12th June 2007, 09:38 PM
^

I've noticed when watching him fight that he tends not to defend low kicks much. He just eats them. Against a guy like Hoost that's a bad policy.

I agree with you. Aerts should check low kicks a bit more. Guys like Hoost, Ignashov they block like 90 % of the low kicks, Aerts 50 % at most.

El Presidente
12th June 2007, 09:43 PM
About the Hoost fight in 1989, I meant KO or TKO'ed by blows to the head. Not doctor stoppages, cuts, injuries or what so ever.

If you take a look at Aerts losses on his record and if you subtract all the ones due to injuries - its a lot lower.

Lost to Filho x2 due to injuries (split shins)
Lost to Leko due to injuries (split shin again)
Lost to Botha to to injuries (muscle?)

He's almost like the heavyweight version of Ramon Dekkers with all these injuries to his legs. Id hate to see him lose the use of them.

K1power
12th June 2007, 09:47 PM
I think it's just that many fighters don't really dare to throw to much lowkicks against Aerts due to fear of the payback, lol

K-1 Extremist
12th June 2007, 10:35 PM
You guys got some photos of his split shins? That's one of the most gruesome injuries in kickboxing to me.

Shinbone
12th June 2007, 11:01 PM
You guys got some photos of his split shins? That's one of the most gruesome injuries in kickboxing to me.

Here you go, it indeed looked gruesome.:wtf:

Shinbone
12th June 2007, 11:02 PM
But this one is worse: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1408471607881631169

K1power
12th June 2007, 11:04 PM
Lol, I still get nightmares about that vid ever since I've seen it for the first time like almost 10 years ago!

K-1 Extremist
12th June 2007, 11:15 PM
But this one is worse: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1408471607881631169

I'm not going to lie... I yelled/screamed when I saw that. That's bogus man! What a way to die. I'd want to die after that.

Shinbone
12th June 2007, 11:18 PM
I'm not going to lie... I yelled/screamed when I saw that. That's bogus man! What a way to die. I'd want to die after that.

Sorry mate, I should have made a warning for people with a weak stomach. :P

K-1 Extremist
12th June 2007, 11:20 PM
Sorry mate, I should have made a warning for people with a weak stomach. :P

Naw man, it's all good. I've spent a year in Iraq and seen all sorts of gruesomeness, but there's something about shin injuries that just rubs me the wrong way.

Shinbone
12th June 2007, 11:23 PM
Naw man, it's all good. I've spent a year in Iraq and seen all sorts of gruesomeness, but there's something about shin injuries that just rubs me the wrong way.

Yes, I read in your profile that you are US Army.

cinder
12th June 2007, 11:39 PM
I pretty much only have one thing to say: Pleeeeeeeease don't let this fight happen.

Shinbone
12th June 2007, 11:41 PM
I pretty much only have one thing to say: Pleeeeeeeease don't let this fight happen.

With what reason?

cinder
12th June 2007, 11:50 PM
I really don't like fighters (I don't even want to call Sapp a fighter) turning things into a circus. I have the highest regards for Peter Aerts and I think he is beyond the likes of Sapp.

Jules
13th June 2007, 01:47 AM
I just talked about events like this in my "MMA is dying" thread. :(

I hope it doesn't happen. I would be behind Sapp if he wanted to fight, but it is shamefully obvious he does not have it in his heart.

K-1 Extremist
13th June 2007, 02:12 AM
It *should* provide us a decent KO so to that effect I hope the fight happens.

( o Y o )
13th June 2007, 02:48 AM
While I wont admit it in public (STFU!) I kinda hope it is Sapp :-D

K-1 Extremist
13th June 2007, 02:53 AM
While I wont admit it in public (STFU!) I kinda hope it is Sapp :-D

You wouldn't want to see Peter KO'd again, would you?! He's had enough catastrophic KOs for his career I'd say. I think the Leko one was the worst.

( o Y o )
13th June 2007, 03:02 AM
Hell no. I just want to see a scared Sapp give Aerts hell for two minutes before the latters skills earn him the win. A bit of drama that can be promo'd in large due to Aerts stepping in to fill Sapp's shoes at the last minute in the last Holland GP.

I think the Leko one was the worst.

Actually I think the second Bernardo looked the worst. The first the most shocking. The look on his face after the LeBanner one made me feel it caused the most damage.

CentralKickboxing.Org
13th June 2007, 03:06 AM
Bob Sapp will (or would) have a hell of a time fighting Peter Aerts. Peter's ability to move backwards and steal a dangerous angle is more than Sapp could ever prepare for. Ernesto could never fight running backwards and that is why he had such trouble with Branko, Filho and Sapp. Aerts is a different animal.

I usually don't predict a one-sided ass-kicking but in this case, I have to.

( o Y o )
13th June 2007, 03:10 AM
Peter's ability to move backwards and steal a dangerous angle is more than Sapp could ever prepare for.

I recently heard on some radio show shomeone calling Chuck the best fighter in the world at landing strikes while moving backwards and got quite a laugh. Some of these MMA noobs have some serious blinders on.

CentralKickboxing.Org
13th June 2007, 04:27 AM
I recently heard on some radio show shomeone calling Chuck the best fighter in the world at landing strikes while moving backwards and got quite a laugh. Some of these MMA noobs have some serious blinders on.

That is pretty messed up. Might as well as say that the current heavyweight boxing champ is the best of all time.

Lawrence Tierney
13th June 2007, 05:42 AM
I think it's more likely that Mike Tyson will fight in Amsterdam than Bob Sapp to return to K-1 there.

majorcunningham
13th June 2007, 08:52 AM
shinbone, you're evil! nearly chucked my crumpets with marmite on my dad's pc!!!

meathead
13th June 2007, 12:24 PM
Bob's biggest challenge will be getting into the ring. The hostile crowd will be his toughest opponent. Never underestimate a hungry beast. If Bob clips Peter early with a looping punch, it will be lights out for Peter. Sorry, I like Aerts, but big Bob has a way of rising to the occasion. What better way to return to the K-1 after a long absence than with a KO of one of its legends.

tonypol
13th June 2007, 01:02 PM
no chance for Boby :d ..Aerts is to good for him ....he will destroy the Beast in round 1 .

K-1 Extremist
13th June 2007, 01:10 PM
Actually I think the second Bernardo looked the worst. The first the most shocking. The look on his face after the LeBanner one made me feel it caused the most damage.


When Le Banner KO'd him, Peter had a look on his face as if he'd just witnessed someone run over his puppy.

( o Y o )
13th June 2007, 01:12 PM
When Le Banner KO'd him, Peter had a look on his face as if he'd just witnessed someone run over his puppy.

True!!

The second Bernardo KO though he fell on an odd angle and his face/chin bounced off the mat. Everyone was worried if he had damaged his neck.

MZN
13th June 2007, 01:57 PM
Bob's biggest challenge will be getting into the ring. The hostile crowd will be his toughest opponent.

Oh now that's enough there on Dutch crowds ;). They might be drunk, hostile, disrespecting and the reason I am not going but they are nowhere dangerous enough to prevent him from getting into the ring. If Bob wants it he can get there... The major problem is in fact wether Bob wants it..

I know because of experience by spending entire weekends around them being equally drunk...

( o Y o )
13th June 2007, 02:01 PM
they are nowhere dangerous enough to prevent him from getting into the ring. If Bob wants it he can get there... The major problem is in fact wether Bob wants it.

The crowd = yes

The people with VIP tickets around the ring I am not so sure of ;-)

Shinbone
13th June 2007, 07:54 PM
shinbone, you're evil! nearly chucked my crumpets with marmite on my dad's pc!!!

You shouldn't eat while sitting behind a pc. :D

timmothy84
13th June 2007, 08:35 PM
I see Aerts winning. Bob will pull the trigger and make it a fun fight to watch though! You got to love the big guy!

K-1 Extremist
13th June 2007, 08:37 PM
Kakuda won't be reffing that fight, will he? If so, Bob just might have a chance!

xavion
13th June 2007, 10:16 PM
Kakuda won't be reffing that fight, will he? If so, Bob just might have a chance!

Doubtful. It seems like he hardly refs any fights nowadays.

( o Y o )
13th June 2007, 10:45 PM
You shouldn't eat while sitting behind a pc. :D


Yet such a waste of time to eat anywhere else :P

Jofeljoh!
13th June 2007, 11:00 PM
Yet such a waste of time to eat anywhere else :P

I could have been typing this sitting on the toilet while eating a sandwich, would have been a brilliant way of multitasking, for hygienic reasons, I don't think it's a too good idea.

Lord Gaul
14th June 2007, 06:41 AM
If Bob went the distance, that would be quite the accomplishment.

Blindo
14th June 2007, 08:24 AM
I don't believe that Bob will fight. He didn't fight last year in Amsterdam, and he didn't fight against Smiler (Cage Rage)

( o Y o )
14th June 2007, 08:34 AM
I don't believe that Bob will fight. He didn't fight last year in Amsterdam, and he didn't fight against Smiler (Cage Rage)

While you are totally correct, and I don't think Sapp would even want to fight, I don't think you can blame him entirely for either one of these.

Blindo
14th June 2007, 10:46 AM
While you are totally correct, and I don't think Sapp would even want to fight, I don't think you can blame him entirely for either one of these.

i didn't want to blame him, sry for my poor english ;)

K-1 Extremist
14th June 2007, 12:41 PM
While you are totally correct, and I don't think Sapp would even want to fight, I don't think you can blame him entirely for either one of these.

Why can't we blame him? What was the excuse last year at Amsterdam? What was his excuse against Smiler? Not calling anyone a liar but I'm not well informed as to the reasons for his backing out of both of these fights.

( o Y o )
14th June 2007, 01:57 PM
Why can't we blame him? What was the excuse last year at Amsterdam?


K-1 would not sign his contract before the fight.


What was his excuse against Smiler?

from what I can gather from people actually working there, Sapp, despite what he says, is firmly signed with K-1 still. They stepped in to stop it and I believe CR didn`t want to step on any toes so didn't fight to keep him.

K1power
14th June 2007, 01:59 PM
Why can't we blame him? What was the excuse last year at Amsterdam? What was his excuse against Smiler? Not calling anyone a liar but I'm not well informed as to the reasons for his backing out of both of these fights.

I don't know the whole story behind his fight against Smiler, but he fought Nog in MMA and Hoost, Sefo, Remy etc. in K-1 so it's definitely not Sapp running away out of fear for Smiler.

About his stunt leaving us at the arena last year... While Rutz promotions basically accused Sapp of running in fear/ wanting more money at the last moment while Sapp accused K-1/Rutz promotions of threatening him like "If you don't fight, you won't be safe no more..." while he basically just wanted his contract to be fixed before he stepped into the ring.

In these situations it's always hard to pick a side because you know nothing for sure so it's also possible that both stories have some truth in them, but since Tanikawa officially apologized to Sapp and said that"in the future they'd try to "treat their fighters better" it's assumable that Sapp's side of the story contains more truth than many people think...

And while Sapp pulled a lot of stunts in K-1 like breaking rules, getting helped by Kakuda (which Sapp can't really be blamed for much) and not showing enough heart, I don't think he deserves all the shit he's getting especially on the Dutch forums. I believe he's proven to have balls and being a worthy K-1 fighter by defeating some great fighters despite not being a real "kickboxer". I know many fans will not agree with what I'm saying but I'll always back that opinion.

( o Y o )
14th June 2007, 02:01 PM
^ much better than my one liners.

( o Y o )
14th June 2007, 02:02 PM
i didn't want to blame him, sry for my poor english ;)

Your english is about 42,302 times better than my German is mate. ;-)

K1power
14th June 2007, 02:05 PM
Your english is about 42,302 times better than my German is mate. ;-)

Time for some German lessons then while you can teach me Japanese mate ;)

( o Y o )
14th June 2007, 02:23 PM
LOL....I had German for 6 months at school by this old ugly scary woman that spat when she talked. I have developed a phobia towards it LOL

K1power
14th June 2007, 02:29 PM
LOL....I had German for 6 months at school by this old ugly scary woman that spat when she talked. I have developed a phobia towards it LOL

Well okay... I still wanna learn Japanese though! lol

Shinbone
14th June 2007, 05:17 PM
LOL....I had German for 6 months at school by this old ugly scary woman that spat when she talked. I have developed a phobia towards it LOL

You should wanna talk with Andre Mannaart then. :D

miscmisc
14th June 2007, 05:40 PM
While you are totally correct, and I don't think Sapp would even want to fight, I don't think you can blame him entirely for either one of these.

I wouldn't blame Sapp AT ALL on this, to be honest, because Sapp had pretty much no say in the matter. It wasn't FEG vs. Sapp at all.

miscmisc
14th June 2007, 05:42 PM
BTW, is this a sign of something to slowly change since Ishii Kancho is gone? Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

( o Y o )
15th June 2007, 01:12 AM
http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/k1/headlines/20070615-00000000-spnavi_ot-fight.html

Sapp is now confirmed, as in, the fight has been offered to him

( o Y o )
15th June 2007, 01:13 AM
You should wanna talk with Andre Mannaart then. :D


As long as he doesn`t whisper in my ear :P

( o Y o )
15th June 2007, 01:14 AM
BTW, is this a sign of something to slowly change since Ishii Kancho is gone? Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

Gone but not "forgotten" is perhaps the best way to put it right now. Word is he has gone to great lengths to ensure he still have hold of the reins.

meathead
15th June 2007, 02:44 AM
There is no way Bob comes back without Kancho's blessing. In fact this is Kancho at his best...not seen, but still the Don King of Asia working behind the scenes. With Bob back perhaps some of the excitement that's been missing in K-1 will return. This move is good for everyone.

tinobar
15th June 2007, 06:07 AM
it looks like sapp was the one to approach them when hong man choi was out and from their they started talking.

i got a soft spot in my heart for the best he is the one that introduced to k-1 and mma

Michael Schiavello
15th June 2007, 06:35 AM
Some of the "excitement" missing from K-1? I think this year has seen some of the most exciting shows yet! YOKOHAMA was a BRILLIANT show and goes down as one of the most exciting and memorable in K-1's history... Hawaii was also exciting, not the highest standard sure, but the final was fantastic.

Amsterdam will rock!!

"The Voice" Michael Schiavello

meathead
15th June 2007, 06:51 AM
No doubt that Yokohama and Hawaii were exciting. Hawaii was one of the best tournaments in some time.

My point is that if one looks at the past three years in the K-1 super heavyweight class, it has been dominated by many boring fights which beg for more excitement....to be frank someone to give Semmy a legitimate run for his money. That's why I believe K-1 created the two heavyweight divisions to break up the logjam. Perhaps Mo can light Semmy up in Holland. If I were a betting man, that's where my money would go.

Lord Gaul
15th June 2007, 07:21 AM
Some of the "excitement" missing from K-1? I think this year has seen some of the most exciting shows yet! YOKOHAMA was a BRILLIANT show and goes down as one of the most exciting and memorable in K-1's history... Hawaii was also exciting, not the highest standard sure, but the final was fantastic.

Amsterdam will rock!!

"The Voice" Michael Schiavello
I am right there with you, K-1 is having a great year. As for Sapp fighting Aerts I think it will be an entertaining affair. People still call Sapp a freak because of his size, but what they don't realize is that he has been fighting top level opposition for 6 years now. After six years of fighting, you have to shed that tired he's a freak label. He probably won't win, but he is a good choice to put in there.

CentralKickboxing.Org
15th June 2007, 07:38 AM
I am right there with you, K-1 is having a great year. As for Sapp fighting Aerts I think it will be an entertaining affair. People still call Sapp a freak because of his size, but what they don't realize is that he has been fighting top level opposition for 6 years now. After six years of fighting, you have to shed that tired he's a freak label. He probably won't win, but he is a good choice to put in there.

Sapp is a freak. He beat Hoost in 2002 and then what? Ran out of the area from Hoost in 2006 (Hoost's retirement year). I have no reason on the planet to cut this guy some slack.

He and Kakuda should just get a hotel room.

miscmisc
15th June 2007, 02:20 PM
it looks like sapp was the one to approach them when hong man choi was out and from their they started talking.

I actually suspect that's not true in reality. Whatever happens behind the scene, it doesn't matter much to us, though.

Brock8
15th June 2007, 06:48 PM
With Sapp Peter Aerts is guaranteed a stunning KO victory. If he were to fight Sefo, it very well might have gone to a decision (and a BS one at that) much as it did the first time they fought. All Ray did for three rounds was showboat.

Yeah, that was a tough decision to lose. Thought it was close but Aerts had it. And then Hoost wins the whole thing after being ko'd.

Lawrence Tierney
16th June 2007, 04:46 AM
Sapp is a freak. He beat Hoost in 2002 and then what? Ran out of the area from Hoost in 2006 (Hoost's retirement year). I have no reason on the planet to cut this guy some slack.

He and Kakuda should just get a hotel room.

Or a cell with a long term lease

K-1 Extremist
16th June 2007, 06:07 AM
Yeah, that was a tough decision to lose. Thought it was close but Aerts had it. And then Hoost wins the whole thing after being ko'd.

Neither of those dudes is Japanese so there's no conspiracy there. I'm still at a loss as to why Ray got the nod. My only hypothesis is that Ray was more entertaining in the fight. Aerts showed up to work, Ray showed up to act like a clown in the ring (for that fight). Don't get me wrong, I love Ray Sefo to death and I love his showboating, but it's only enjoyable for me to watch when he's WINNING the fight.

Anjew
17th June 2007, 11:07 PM
No doubt Peter scored a bit more there, but he did not really hurt Ray either.

( o Y o )
18th June 2007, 01:50 AM
No doubt Peter scored a bit more there, but he did not really hurt Ray either.


While Ray did land some bombs, by far the more significant shots of the fight.

But this has been done to death on here.

Shinbone
18th June 2007, 09:28 AM
Yes, this needs an re-match.

gols
18th June 2007, 01:24 PM
Sapp is a freak. He beat Hoost in 2002 and then what? Ran out of the area from Hoost in 2006 (Hoost's retirement year). I have no reason on the planet to cut this guy some slack.

He and Kakuda should just get a hotel room.

I take it you don't believe his veiled threats and lack of contract story then?

K1power
18th June 2007, 03:43 PM
I take it you don't believe his veiled threats and lack of contract story then?

That's what I wanted to ask as well, lol

Long Fist
18th June 2007, 10:52 PM
If Aerts will KO Sapp, I will enjoy it as much as seeing a matador killing a bull. Why couldn't they give Sapp an easier comeback match, were Sapp would have his own advantages nad the outcome would be unpredictable. For instance, Sapp vs Hari would be interesting, and it might adjust Hari's attitudes toward more humble direction.

unicorn
21st June 2007, 06:32 PM
If Aerts fights Sapp I honestly hope he's gonna hand his ass to his mouth. :D Sorry 4 "fighter bashing" :D

CentralKickboxing.Org
22nd June 2007, 12:25 AM
I take it you don't believe his veiled threats and lack of contract story then?

No. I do believe it. The K-1 dropped the ball.

Still, there are many different perspectives. Hoost for example lost his only chance to get a rematch. I, the fan, missed out. Peter got kudos but also got an L on his record.

How responsible is Sapp? If the deadline to walk away is 1 hour before the fight, I would have to hold him partly responsible.