View Full Version : Am I biased or is USA reffing bad?
Jules
6th June 2007, 05:09 AM
Am I the only one that scored the Saku vs Royce fight as 30-29?
The only thing that happened was Saku dropping Royce in the first round. Then several minutes of neither doing much followed by weak standing kimura attempts.
Frankly the fight was what I expected, but sad at the same time. I don't see how Royce managed to get the win though. Nor why he would celebrate like he just subbed Fedor either. Three five-minute rounds was nothing that could make up for their last marathon.
( o Y o )
6th June 2007, 06:01 AM
Be warned. Viva Las Vegas is tracking you as we speak.
CentralKickboxing.Org
6th June 2007, 06:35 AM
Reffing or judging?
Both tend to be bad in the US.
( o Y o )
6th June 2007, 06:37 AM
The refs and the judges are the same group of peoples right? (yes the s was added on purpose, lol)
redsquareblackbox
6th June 2007, 07:14 AM
The favorite gets the nod in close calls, oftentimes. Gracie was the favorite because they know who he is. Remember, most of these asshole judges are only a little bit more mma savvy than tuffers.
This was a big win for Gracie, and for the family name. Think it over: Royce Gracie's loss to saku vanquished claims of superiority, forever debunking the family's rep. From 1996 hereto the loss I would read articles in Black Belt with different Gracies insisting no one in the family had Ever lost a Single fight. That makes this win major revenge for the Gracies. Diminutive revenge for most, it may be.
Viva Las Vegas
6th June 2007, 11:58 PM
"Be warned. Viva Las Vegas is tracking you as we speak."
ha ha- your on double secret probation.
Viva Las Vegas
6th June 2007, 11:58 PM
To answer your question, you are biased. Judging here is the best.
Lord Gaul
7th June 2007, 11:13 PM
Am I the only one that scored the Saku vs Royce fight as 30-29?
The only thing that happened was Saku dropping Royce in the first round. Then several minutes of neither doing much followed by weak standing kimura attempts.
Frankly the fight was what I expected, but sad at the same time. I don't see how Royce managed to get the win though. Nor why he would celebrate like he just subbed Fedor either. Three five-minute rounds was nothing that could make up for their last marathon.
The reason Royce was celibrating like that is because Saku beat everyone his family sent at him. And IMHO the reason why Royce is overated and can never be considered the greatest fighter of all time is because Sakuraba won the most important fight Royces career. He was fine when nobody knew what he knew, but as soon as he ran into Sak he was forced to use his other abilities which he didn't have. This win to him is vindication for his family and now makes him greater then Sakuraba in his mind.
Cracked_Knuckle
9th June 2007, 10:45 AM
To answer your question, you are biased. Judging here is the best.
:rofl: Carter Williams, Remy Bonjasky, Fujimoto and a heap of other cats would be desagreeing wit u now bro!
adam-x
9th June 2007, 01:27 PM
it's bad
migo
9th June 2007, 05:05 PM
Royce was more aggressive than Sak, but I scored it 29-28 Royce as well (given that it had to be scored, I would have really liked to give them both a draw). Don't know how on earth Peoples gave him ronud 3 though. Sak dropping Royce wasn't that significant - he'll pull guard against someone with better takedown skills without getting hit.
Global Honored
11th June 2007, 01:03 PM
Judging is bad everywhere. No biases....it's an international problem. Ask anybody who has ever faced Musashi...oh, and Cecil Peoples is the worst no matter which continent he is representing or officiating at/from.
Viva Las Vegas
11th June 2007, 10:35 PM
http://www.cecilpeoples.com/
K1power
11th June 2007, 10:43 PM
LMAO... he sucks REALLY bad!
Jules
13th June 2007, 01:34 AM
Sak dropping Royce wasn't that significant.
I do believe it was the only significant thing that happened the entire fight.
Jules
13th June 2007, 01:37 AM
Judging here is the best.
If by "here" you mean Las Vegas then I guess you forgot to add the smiley.
From some of the judging and reffing I have seen there in UFC and even more so in K-1, I would honestly say it is worse than anything we have witnessed in Japan.
The sad difference being thaat in Japan we expect to see hometown advantages. In Las Vegas they are just all over the place.