Dynamite USA: Biggest MMA event on US soil ever?

[( o Y o )]

http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/other/headlines/etc/20070603-00000025-spnavi-fight.html

FEG says "about 54,000".

[Body_Shots]

Body_Shots says "FEG is full of shit".

[( o Y o )]

I totally expect they are too. But even half that number would be a record.

[tiefling]

"Two Los Angeles Police Department sources on duty said they were told there were about 1,000 paid admissions going into the day; the actual count will be announced by the state athletic commission early next week. It appeared somewhere between 10,000 and 15,000 of those who got freebies showed up."

http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/6880270

That's pretty bad...

[TheDude]

Thats terrible.

[( o Y o )]

Terrible if true (ignoring the fact even it would still be something of a great marketing idea), but Gross at sherdog said several weeks ago that FEG was not permitted by the CSAC to comp their planned 60k so I fail to see how it could be true now when it seems the CSAC got stricter and stricter as things progressed.

[Dado]

What a disaster.

UGH, I guessed this would happen when I heard of their plans to have an event in the US.

[( o Y o )]

http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/6880270



"This is a matter of a fighter being placed in a position he should not have been placed. This was a slap in the face to promotions like the UFC and the International Fight League, who have worked tirelessly to make sure fighters are reasonably matched and ensure safeguards are in place to make sure things like this don't happen."

This paragraph is a joke on it's own. When you factor in the fact Morton's opponent is the same age as he and has NO career as an athlete (he is a fucking comedian on TV here) and only debuted in MMA 2 months ago (for a total record of 1-0-0) it becomes laughable to infer this was a gross mismatch.

[tiefling]

This paragraph is a joke on it's own. When you factor in the fact Morton's opponent is the same age as he and has NO career as an athlete (he is a fucking comedian on TV here) and only debuted in MMA 2 months ago (for a total record of 1-0-0) it becomes laughable to infer this was a gross mismatch.

Apparently Ackah has a taekwon-do and judo background, I'm not sure how extensive though.

[( o Y o )]

He does, though from what I have heard it was quite awhile back until he started wanting to fight. But if that is the case in making gross mismatches then clearly Mr. Shark is far more qualified than Lesner, but no one is bitching there (though IF Shark had of knocked lesner out there WOULD be bitching it was a mismatch).

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"This is a matter of a fighter being placed in a position he should not have been placed. This was a slap in the face to promotions like the UFC and the International Fight League, who have worked tirelessly to make sure fighters are reasonably matched and ensure safeguards are in place to make sure things like this don't happen."

This paragraph is a joke on it's own. When you factor in the fact Morton's opponent is the same age as he and has NO career as an athlete (he is a fucking comedian on TV here) and only debuted in MMA 2 months ago (for a total record of 1-0-0) it becomes laughable to infer this was a gross mismatch.

The CSAC, supposedly the most "strict" athletic commission in the country, approved the match, after all. The biggest reason why (most of) those UFC matches are "reasonably matched" is that they are regulated by a third party for what it's worth. And this event was regulated too.

Such a mindless after-the-fact statement makes you quickly realize that the whole point of the article was knock the event down no matter what. That writer is bitching only because Morton was knocked the fuck out in a spectacular way. I bet that "Oh, this is such a mismatch" was absolutely not on his mind before-the-fact, because nothing had indicated that it was. It's not that I loved the idea of Dynamite USA, but this kind of bitch "journalism" really pisses me off.

[Lord Gaul]

Well even if it isn't 54,000 it is probably close enough to lie that amount. If you think about it, if that is the actual total number of people at the event the box office totals would be insane.

[blacks]

54,000 10$ tickets = 540,000$
or
54,000 comps = 0$
We'll know soon enough.

[EckY]

Josh Gross said he had heard there were around 35,000 in attendance at its peak.

[xavion]

Josh Gross said he had heard there were around 35,000 in attendance at its peak.

I'm surprised that the figure is that high... but I don't think Josh would say something like that unless he was reasonably certain about it.

[Viva Las Vegas]

I think I read somewhere that the CSAC said K-1 could not give away x (a large number) amount of free tickets. Why is that? How does the CSAC have any say in that?

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^ I don't know why they can decide such a thing, but when they are the ones that decide if FEG get the license to hold the event, they can pretty much say what they want.

[Razor Bump]

Would be a nice number. Don't f.... with Ackah...(moral of the story). Why did they let this bum fight him in the 1st place? They have plenty of athlete's

[heckyl]

cuz he is johnnie fucking morton. ackah is a comedian and you are asking why they let this bum fight him? cuz this is K-1 possibly????

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^ I don't know why they can decide such a thing, but when they are the ones that decide if FEG get the license to hold the event, they can pretty much say what they want.

I think CSAC get's some precentage from live revenue?
Maybe they we're greedy? (probably wrong spelling?)

[FieldingMellish]

Just watched the show (yes, am VERY late, lol). To me, and I watched the Elite XC show too, the crowd seemed to grow from some 10,000 or so to somewhere around 25,000.

Such a shame they actually had fights in daylight because once night fell this looked like a tremendous success. Shame they had so many obviously empty seats earlier in the day.

FEG claiming 54,000 is the stupidest thing ever. Especially as the actual crowd number will come out in a few days.

But I have no idea how the CSAC can have any say in how many freebies K-1 gave out. That's ridiculous. But then again, welcome to the wacky world of Armando Garcia....

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Such a shame they actually had fights in daylight because once night fell this looked like a tremendous success. Shame they had so many obviously empty seats earlier in the day.

I thought the same thing, but then assumed it had something to do with the PPV slot timing?? I heard they were luck lesner finished Shark when he did as there was only about 12 minutes left before the PPV would stop.

[FieldingMellish]

I thought the same thing, but then assumed it had something to do with the PPV slot timing?? I heard they were luck lesner finished Shark when he did as there was only about 12 minutes left before the PPV would stop.

Yeah, the show was definitely running long. Lucky Lesnar is such a BEAST.

There's nothing they could do about the daylight thing. Its just it was such a huge contrast from earlier inthe show to the last couple of fights.

[( o Y o )]

But I have no idea how the CSAC can have any say in how many freebies K-1 gave out. That's ridiculous. But then again, welcome to the wacky world of Armando Garcia....

Seems Slash was near the mark. They have to pay tax on tickets sold (not given away).

[redsquareblackbox]

On the mismatch thing, imagine if "they" thought every fight that ended early by a brutal ko was a mismatch. Besides a xenophobic bias here, there's sentiment that demonstrates an ingnorance to a raw fact of mma striking: Smaller gloves open the door for more KOs. They just do, regardless who is fighting.

[Lord Gaul]

You know I am starting to believe more and more that the number is bigger then what we think and I think that it is all from puchased tickets. The reason I say that is because if they did give out thousands of tickets. How come the internet isn't flooded with people saying they watched the show for free?

I was almost certain that there would be a lot of people that would say that they watched the show and like thousands of people got free tickets too.

I am not saying that they brought in 54,000. But I am saying that it is possibly that the number is higher then 40,000.

[Shiruba]

from people that were there it seemed to be around 20,000 according to them.

[FieldingMellish]

You know I am starting to believe more and more that the number is bigger then what we think and I think that it is all from puchased tickets. The reason I say that is because if they did give out thousands of tickets. How come the internet isn't flooded with people saying they watched the show for free?

Depends who they gave the freebies to. If they just went out to Korean neighbourhoods and the draw was 'Koreans fighting' then those people wouldn't necessarily be all over the MMA forums as they may not be fans anyway.

[Lord Gaul]

I guess to it would make since that one some of those 20,000 would be saying something on line. I don't think we have any hood in the states that you can't find 100 internet users who wouldn't say something about getting tickets free.

I see your point FM, but I still feel that there should be some people braging. Ijust want to meet five, thats all I ask.

[FieldingMellish]

I guess to it would make since that one some of those 20,000 would be saying something on line. I don't think we have any hood in the states that you can't find 100 internet users who wouldn't say something about getting tickets free.

I see your point FM, but I still feel that there should be some people braging. Ijust want to meet five, thats all I ask.

But would those people be talking about it on forums you'd see? If they got free tickets but aren't actuallly MMA fans I doubt they'd be all over the MMA forums.

Whatever, we'll find out the paid number soon enough.

But a source I trust pegged the crowd at its highest point at around 23,000, with a good 20,000 of those being Asians and predominantly Koreans (thats based on K-1 giving out red t-shirts to every Korean they could find, lol).

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But a source I trust pegged the crowd at its highest point at around 23,000, with a good 20,000 of those being Asians and predominantly Koreans (thats based on K-1 giving out red t-shirts to every Korean they could find, lol).


I have heard from some there anywhere from 18,000 to 35,000. Whatever it was I think it is safe to say if Choi was fighting the US attendance record would have easily been FEG's.

[Cracked_Knuckle]

still no numbers listed by CASC?

[xavion]

still no numbers listed by CASC?

They really seem to be taking their time. Or maybe no one specifically asked them about it, so they won't release it (just like Diego and the drug test, lol).

[( o Y o )]

^ Good possibility. I emailed the NSAC weeks back to ask them about hGH though and still have no reply.