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AKA
24th May 2007, 06:11 PM
Please quote all my incorrect post and correct them here, so I'll finally write a good english! I guess: my sig, the thread's title and this first sentence are pretty incorrect too!
( o Y o )
24th May 2007, 06:12 PM
I'm too drunk right now, but will do my best to help from tomorrow ;-)
Titan
24th May 2007, 09:29 PM
Well, something that would instantly improve your English is to not start every post with "fuck". :-)
heckyl
24th May 2007, 10:01 PM
but the word fuck is a legitimate english word. to be honest i understand your posts just fine.
Shinbone
24th May 2007, 10:09 PM
Please quote all my incorrect post and correct them here, so I'll finally write a good english! I guess: my sig, the thread's title and this first sentence are pretty incorrect too!
We can begin with this quote. :P
FieldingMellish
24th May 2007, 10:19 PM
Well, something that would instantly improve your English is to not ask ( o Y o ) for advice.... :evillaugh
AKA
24th May 2007, 10:38 PM
Well, something that would instantly improve your English is to not start every post with "fuck". :-)
Dana do it, I'm a Dana wanna be!
I guess that "fuck" is just fine to express your disapointment!
AKA
24th May 2007, 10:38 PM
We can begin with this quote. :P
Well, correct it bro :D
AKA
24th May 2007, 10:43 PM
Well, something that would instantly improve your English is to not ask ( o Y o ) for advice.... :evillaugh
Nah, u know sometimes he's sober!
Shinbone
24th May 2007, 10:55 PM
Well, correct it bro :D
Well, I think it is best to wait for the language whizz kid MZN or for an native English speaker.
MZN
24th May 2007, 11:45 PM
Well, I think it is best to wait for the language whizz kid MZN or for an native English speaker.
The tepid thing is still bothering you, isn't it? ;)
Now I think I am not that good. I do use posting on an English speaking forum like this to improve my own English skills and take every word I type into consideration to make sure I think I write a good sentence.
I just like well written English and well spoken English. I read somewhere that Rowan Atkinson does stutter in real life and that is why he has to over-articulate his lines. And appart from it being completely being my kind of humour I think it also a reason why I like Brittish comedy a lot, to the point of making Mellish fear me :).
As for Aka's request I wonder wether I am the right person but I loudly applaud his intentions.
I can also imagine that English is a tough thing for French speakers, having twisted their toungs into all sorts of turns to get French out of their mouths (especially the part nearest to your lips, and the lips themselves)
and then suddenly you have to try speaking English and oh oh It sounds soooo funny to the native speakers that the courage sinks into their shoes right then and there. (Dunglish intended)
Personally I have learned French at school for seven years because I sucked so badly at maths I had to choose a certain group of subjects including most languages to be able to go to university without maths. and it is a beautiful language indeed but I STILL do not understand a single Frenchman speaking French!
Shinbone
25th May 2007, 10:34 PM
Peace bro. And what the hell is a tepid thing? 'Lauw' in Dutch.
I'm always having problems with the tenses, I mix everything together.
AKA
25th May 2007, 10:48 PM
hahahahha thx MZN! Yeah french is kinda weird for most of the people!
I would highly appreciate if you didnt mind to correct my posts!
BTW, I'm fucking serious, I began the MMA related forum abbout 4.5 years ago, i was a 0 at english....no skills at all! Now, I'm obviously better and my speaken english is far better than my written one! I'm into management now, really deeply..I just wanna be better in communication! Its kinda horrible to have no precision in your language, its a limitation!
Shinbone
25th May 2007, 11:04 PM
Off topic, but AKA can you give us an idea how Jerome's recovery is going on?
Has his knee healed?
AKA
25th May 2007, 11:24 PM
Everything is going well, but its a long process...6 months minimum, so we have 5% of chances to see JLB at Korean Elims...Probably in the GP reserve fight imo, btw I hope I can be wrong!
MZN
25th May 2007, 11:30 PM
Peace bro. And what the hell is a tepid thing? 'Lauw' in Dutch.
I'm always having problems with the tenses, I mix everything together.
Yes it was the lauw thingie indeed bet eh the rant wasn't adressed to you in particular just me getting pissed off about languages alltogether haha :)
Edit: You obviously forgot what I was on about, nevermind ;)
MZN
25th May 2007, 11:35 PM
hahahahha thx MZN! Yeah french is kinda weird for most of the people!
I would highly appreciate if you didnt mind to correct my posts!
BTW, I'm fucking serious, I began the MMA related forum about 4.5 years ago, I was a 0 at English....no skills at all! Now, I'm obviously better and my spoken english is far better than my written one! I'm into management now, really deeply..I just wanna be better in communication! Its kinda horrible to have no precision in your language, its a limitation!
Let's start here lol :)
Not many mistakes I can spot you see :P
Shinbone
25th May 2007, 11:49 PM
Everything is going well, but its a long process...6 months minimum, so we have 5% of chances to see JLB at Korean Elims...Probably in the GP reserve fight imo, btw I hope I can be wrong!
oh sorry to hear that. I had hoped it was less dramatic as this.
I really wish him a fast recovery.
Thanks for the informatie AKA.
Fozzy
26th May 2007, 02:26 AM
Honestly Aka we have been posting on the same forums for a few years now and a realistic sense your english is quite fine man, don't stress about it.
~Foz
loreia
26th May 2007, 07:14 AM
Honestly Aka we have been posting on the same forums for a few years now and a realistic sense your english is quite fine man, don't stress about it.
~Foz
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Jofeljoh!
26th May 2007, 09:35 AM
If you have doubts about spelling a word correctly, you could use Firefox as browser which has a spelling checker in it. Using good grammar is still tough :P But as a few people already pointed out, your English is fine. Everyone makes mistakes now and then, even the native speakers ;)
AKA
26th May 2007, 03:48 PM
thx guys :)
I mean I really would like to write REALLY correct sentences! No more mistakes ;) Its important in buisness.
Jofeljoh!
26th May 2007, 03:51 PM
you mean 'business' right? LOL
just needling you mate ;)
Titan
26th May 2007, 04:27 PM
thx guys :)
I mean I really would like to write REALLY correct sentences! No more mistakes ;) Its important in buisness.
You should use a program with a grammar and spellchecker, and pay attention to what mistakes you make. You're correct that it's important in business to make a professional impression. Your punctuation in the above was a bit incorrect, and you made a mistake with "its" by making it the possessive, the same way a lot of people (on the Internet) use "your" when they're trying to say "you are". Your sentence should've been:
I mean, I really would like to write REALLY correct sentences! No more mistakes. It's important in business.
Titan
26th May 2007, 04:37 PM
Dana do it, I'm a Dana wanna be!
I guess that "fuck" is just fine to express your disapointment!
You're concerned about proper business English. In business, you should never, ever use the word "fuck" or "fucking" unless it is in a cordial conversation where you know the other person very well, and know that other person's reaction to "profanities". My point about your use of "fuck", which is something you like starting posts with, is that you are a manager, you are representing a fighter, and you are putting your words on the Internet for everyone to read and everyone to make up their opinion about you. Even for other professionals to make up their mind about you. Who knows who's reading the posts on here, right, or who will be reading the posts? You should be careful to make sure you come across professionally on the Internet, just like what you're working on now, because you want to give a professional impression overall in "public documents" like Internet-posts.
AKA
27th May 2007, 02:56 PM
You should use a program with a grammar and spellchecker, and pay attention to what mistakes you make. You're correct that it's important in business to make a professional impression. Your punctuation in the above was a bit incorrect, and you made a mistake with "its" by making it the possessive, the same way a lot of people (on the Internet) use "your" when they're trying to say "you are". Your sentence should've been:
thx bro :)
AKA
27th May 2007, 03:00 PM
You're concerned about proper business English. In business, you should never, ever use the word "fuck" or "fucking" unless it is in a cordial conversation where you know the other person very well, and know that other person's reaction to "profanities". My point about your use of "fuck", which is something you like starting posts with, is that you are a manager, you are representing a fighter, and you are putting your words on the Internet for everyone to read and everyone to make up their opinion about you. Even for other professionals to make up their mind about you. Who knows who's reading the posts on here, right, or who will be reading the posts? You should be careful to make sure you come across professionally on the Internet, just like what you're working on now, because you want to give a professional impression overall in "public documents" like Internet-posts.
You are right, I guess I should be more attentive on my posts, maybe one day it could be bad for me. Who knows!
Btw, I only use "fuck" in a vocal convo with people I know pretty well. About my post here, it kinda shows what I think when I'm surprised and disappointed... I guess, that I want to stay natural on kakoutogi ;)
Titan
28th May 2007, 12:28 PM
You are right, I guess I should be more attentive on my posts, maybe one day it could be bad for me. Who knows!
Btw, I only use "fuck" in a vocal convo with people I know pretty well. About my post here, it kinda shows what I think when I'm surprised and disappointed... I guess, that I want to stay natural on kakoutogi ;)
I know the feeling. As administrator that has to somewhat represent the rules we put out for this site, it's difficult to write sometimes. ;-)
miscmisc
28th May 2007, 03:08 PM
The best way to master "business English" is just read a lot of documents and type them verbatim by yourself over and over again. You'll kind of start getting "it" over time. Once you break the structure and words down, the skeleton is pretty simple in most cases. And there are some big words that you definitely have to know, and actually use a lot.
I also had almost zero English before I moved to the US to study. Actually, it was more like -1 English. As most college-educated Japanese people suffer from it, my English was more or less grammatically correct overall, but totally "wrong" conceptually. It was difficult to undo that Japanese-ness. You won't have to deal with that, I assume, but in any event, the only way to improve your writing is read a lot, and write a lot. You need to do both. That's what I had to do (I was studying in school, so had to do it anyway), and I don't think there's any other way.
AKA
5th June 2007, 06:48 PM
^^ i dont have time to read bro! I'm so busy. But thx for the tip :D
Hey, guys, no more comments??? What the hell is this? So my english is so FUCKING perfect?
lolzzz
migo
5th June 2007, 08:16 PM
Please quote all my incorrect post and correct them here, so I'll finally write a good english! I guess: my sig, the thread's title and this first sentence are pretty incorrect too!
"Please quote all my incorrect posts and correct them here,"
would be step one, but that has ambiguity whether you're talking about incorrect English or incorrect information - despite the fact that the context makes it clear which you mean
"so I'll finally write a good English sentence"
English is not a noun when talking about the language.
"Please quote all my posts that contain English language mistakes and correct them here," would be another improvement. "Them" is an unclear referrent, but whether the mistakes or the posts are being referred to, the meaning is the same.
AKA
5th June 2007, 09:27 PM
¨thx I appreciate your help bro :)
migo
6th June 2007, 02:15 PM
Comma after thanks. I can't think of the exact grammar explanation right now, though. You could do a semi-colon as well. General explanation; words like thanks, regards, sincerely, etc. are all followed by a comma - unless it's a different phrase like "thanks for nothing".
This is getting hard, I keep thinking of exceptions to rules I'm giving you. Corrections without explanations will still help; most of us just learned by immitation.
migo
6th June 2007, 02:17 PM
lol at your Dutch proverb! Thats the excuse for drinking more and more beers, damed Dutch ;)
Bro u arent steling anything, I'm more than glad that everybody can discuss about weight/fat/sports issues in this thread, please continue!
Either "talk about" or "discuss" - "discuss about" sounds really strange, although I wouldn't go as far as saying it's actually wrong.
Lord Gaul
26th June 2007, 06:07 PM
[QUOTE=AKA;136255]^^ its supposed to be with the stars too but Boobs put a doubt in my mind!
Its supposed to have stars as well, but Boobs put a doubt in my mind about puting them there.
I just added cama, rearanged wording a little, and answered what boobs put in doubt in your mind.
miscmisc
26th June 2007, 07:33 PM
Either "talk about" or "discuss" - "discuss about" sounds really strange, although I wouldn't go as far as saying it's actually wrong.
I believe it's plain wrong, because "discuss" can never be an intransitive verb under any circumstances.
AKA
1st July 2007, 12:49 PM
^thx :)