Peter, Remy and Glaube...Also on the card?

[urdum]

http://www.k-1.co.jp/report/20070126r_11.html


Here is the link, the 4th pic, but I dont know it for sure. Cause I cant read japanese

If someone has any info about this..please let it know

[K1power]

I think it describes which fights/fighters appear on the card + which fighters fall under which (new) weight category.

[( o Y o )]

which fighters fall under which (new) weight category.

Thats it.

The 4th slide, left side is all those that are in the -100kg class, those on the right are at the weight where they could fight in either class, and those on the 5th slide are in the +100kg class.

Under each section is a bunch of other names of fighters that are signed with K-1 that make each class.

[urdum]

Goddamn... I realy hoped that those fighters on the 4h pic would be on the card. Would be cool.

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

They are describing the categories Heavy, Super haeavy and the grey zone.

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

Interesting list for under 100kg. Carter Williams and Gary Goodridge. Carter hasn't weighed 100kg since he was 15 years old. It is a monumental chore for him to get down to 110kg.

[Lord Gaul]

I really think this is a good idea. The more I here about it the more I like it.

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

I really think this is a good idea. The more I here about it the more I like it.

I think it is a terrible idea. Convince me. What is the point of having 2 champs in the same company?

[( o Y o )]

What is the point of having 2 champs in the same company?

Inject a little more interest in a rapidly declining business...

[Anjew]

Well, Felix, I don't think it is bad. It's always better to fight for 'a title' than just a superfight... ;)

Seriously, I like the idea of weightclasses. More chances for young fighters to get into real K-1, then they can convert into superheavies after getting more muscles and more experience. You know what I mean. :)

[Lord Gaul]

I guess the thing that I like about it is that it is going to open the doors for more fighters. I think that the new weight class means more shows with more fighters. I think that K-1 has the potential to promote two are three events a month. I alo think that there is alot of untaped recouses in the fight world waiting to get in. I think that guys like Saki, Ghita, Berry, Pettas, Ionut, and Ahkremenko should be regulars for K-1. I think that the opertunity for them is limited because of the bigger fighters that bring in more ratings(which is fine). But I think that the product of the smaller fighters(well a little smaller) would sell well if only they were introduced to the Japanese audience. The Pride 205 division was huge so why can't a -100kg division do well.

Second I think it levels the playing field. Looking at the WGP champions. We have one glitch in the matrix in Hug who weighed what 210 when he won it all. Outside of him we got Aerts who was around 100kgs probably over. Hoost was over at 238 pounds, Mark Hunt was way over at 280, Remy weighed 104kgs when he won back to back. And Schilt is way over. I think that it is difficult for some of the smaller gus to compete with the big guys. They lump everyone over 200 pounds together, but there is a huge difference between someone the size of Cooper and some one the size of Iggy. Yet somehow they are lumped in the same class. I love boxing, but one thing I can't stand is that they hat that there is a cruiserweight division. They feel that they should all go up to heavyweight. So that is 175 plus. It kills me that they think there is no difference in the size of those men, but they talk about the difference between 140 and 147 as if it is hugly significant. Well guess what, it is and so is the differenc between someone 175 and 200 to 250 plus. I see K-1 the same. You must acknowledge the difference in size and doing so adds depth to a great roster. That is what I am looking for depth. K-1 should have a roster of fighters that looks like Pride and UFC. I mean that in the way that there is a lightweight class a class at 170, 185, 205, and up. It doesn't have to look just like that, but I want it to be similer.

I don't see this as the end all, I see it as the start. Whether the titles stay are not doesn't matter to me as much as the beginning of the new classes. Soon they will work down the weight classes and add 86 and 70 hopefully. But all this starts with a new weight class. Nathan Carnage Corbett can not be the K-1 WGP 86kg champion if it doesn't exist. The first step to its existence is adding new classes. Max was the first step, this is the second.

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

What makes you think their will be more events?
Do you think the extra belts will squeeze more revenue out of Japan?
Will the extra champions demand higher purses and, in effect, take more pie from the entry level fighters?
Will Sefo and LeBanner abandon the Grand Prix entirely?
Which champion will be more respected?
Will it last or will it be a temporary fix like Bob Sapp's spooky laugh?

I admire your guys' optimism, but if you are basing it on the belief that the K-1 has unlimited resources, I think you will be surprised to see the K-1 sread themselves thin.

[heckyl]

all i got to say, is we needed weightclasses. this is very good. with new weightclass comes new champion to be crowned. division champions are just that. division champions. the wgp is openweight, open to anybody. and is a gp trophy to defend each year. im failing to see why this is a bad thing. this adds more interest to superfights. more interest to those fighters just too small to make an impact but have the skills. superfights that mean a damn to create contenders for said belts. this is exciting. i look forward to this a great deal.

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

all i got to say, is we needed weightclasses. this is very good. with new weightclass comes new champion to be crowned. division champions are just that. division champions. the wgp is openweight, open to anybody. and is a gp trophy to defend each year. im failing to see why this is a bad thing. this adds more interest to superfights. more interest to those fighters just too small to make an impact but have the skills. superfights that mean a damn to create contenders for said belts. this is exciting. i look forward to this a great deal.

Too small? Wasn't it the K-1 who switched to 3 round fights so the big guys would have the advantage before they gassed? Even JLB was vulnerable to Leko over 5 rounds. Can you imagine what Choi would look like in rounds 4 and 5 against Bonjasky? Horizontal.

[migs]

centralkickboxing.org you got some good gloomy points there but I am still kind of excited about the change. This may open the doors for other fighters and for maybe another smaller weight class and we'll see some really awesome talent. I just don't see K-1 surviving if it just stays the same as it is now. It was so exciting back in the late 90s and this year was so exciting cause we saw our old heroes back in action and looking good. I like Remy and Glaube but most of the bigger stars are just about done and I really don't see enough young blood to replenish these heroes. I think K-1 is adapting to their situation.

On second thought, WTF am I saying...? Without a K-1 GP in December and the current format it just wouldn't feel like K-1 at all.

I stand corrected. They should just dig for talent and keep it the way it is. It is too fucking exciting and I don't see getting jacked up for a title fight the way that I get all butterflies before some GPs.

sorry I am tired.

[krs]

There's one thing I'm not getting with their classification.

- Under 100kg class can fight for the "under 100 kg belt"

- Over 110Kg class for the "over 100 kg belt"

- And the between class (the one with sefo, remy, aerts) can fight with all other classes?

Does that mean that, for exemple, Aerts could be the champ of all categories and win the whole 3 belts ?

[LethalSassonic]

Too small? Wasn't it the K-1 who switched to 3 round fights so the big guys would have the advantage before they gassed? Even JLB was vulnerable to Leko over 5 rounds. Can you imagine what Choi would look like in rounds 4 and 5 against Bonjasky? Horizontal.

I agree with this, 3 rounds greatly aids the larger guys, especially the giants. I'm not sure when we will see Choi hurt and on the ground inside of 3 rounds....

[krs]

Damn, I just realized something looking at the homepage : they finally found a way to give a belt to Musashi...

[( o Y o )]

There's one thing I'm not getting with their classification.

- Under 100kg class can fight for the "under 100 kg belt"

- Over 110Kg class for the "over 100 kg belt"

- And the between class (the one with sefo, remy, aerts) can fight with all other classes?

Does that mean that, for exemple, Aerts could be the champ of all categories and win the whole 3 belts ?

The between class is for guys that could cut a few kg to fight for the under 100kg belt, or stay at their natural weight and fight for the over 100kg belt. So yeah, someone in the mddle area could hold all three.

[Razor Bump]

I would like to see a tournament with

Michael McDonald
Dewey Cooper
Kaoklai
Musashi
Badr hari
Nathan Corbett

and throw in two more. I think it will be knock down drag out and fun to see big dudes with mobility.

[Cracked_Knuckle]

I swear I remember us talking about how K-1 should have a champ and a GP and they should piss off these 3 round superfights and make em 5 again. Now they did it and half the world be bitching like it is dat time of a month. WTF?