Drugs use in K-1

[krs]

As Ignashov pointed it out in the Punch Mag's Interview, it is more than likely there is some drugs use in K-1 and other Fight Sports.

This is not a "who does, who don't" thread, but I'd like to have your opinion on this subject.

Do you think, as a K-1 fan or just as a fighter, that regulation and controls should be strictly done by K-1 organization? Or at the opposite do you think it's part of the show and it doesn't annoy you that some fighters use steroïds and other drugs as long as they fight well?


In my opinion drugs can't give you the victory.
I guess they can even damage your mental and your confdence in yourself...not talking about your health.
But they still give you a real physical advantage and that is pretty unfair to other fighters.

[Cleaner]

On location in Japan, I think the fighters should be tested and evaluated by an organization completely separate from K-1. Times might have changed, but I know somebody that said K-1 Japan is only concerned that the fighters aren't using narcotic drugs, like cocaine, marijuana, and so forth. This was from an anti-drug K-1 veteran fighter whose name I won't mention. So while they do test the fighters and they get to piss in a cup, it shouldn't matter the outcome as long as no narcotic preparates were used. Note that this is Japan. Vegas, for example, is very strict, and so are other places. I.e. K-1 Basel had some controversy going on last time around. Not sure whether the tests were false positives there or what the outcome was. I think most of the names were cleared. I don't wanna speculate too loudly, because false positives do happen, and those always make bigger and more scandalous news than the second test that clears their names. I mean, you can actually fail a drug test and be classified as an opiate user by eating poppy seed bagels before it. :-)

Obviously, that's K-1 Japan's opinion, as I understand it. My opinion is that drugs do give you an unfair advantage. However, those getting caught in general and in all sports are probably just careless. It is possible to get off the cycle in time and probably take whatever-whatever to speed up the cleansing process. Those caught are typically with trace amounts n the system. That's one type of drugs. A more scary scenario is somebody on uppers or pain-killers during the fight. That is a clear advantage is some cases. That said, I think all drugs should be tested for. Maybe they should even get occasional tests from fighters in training and not only at fight-events. K-1, though, is fairly small and with a given number of popular fighters. It'd be economically unsound to start doing that.

[krs]

Right now it doesn't seem to be a really strong will about the drugs detections.

They do piss in a cup, but some don't want to piss in front of an organization member. So it's pretty easy making piss your coach for you and then put it inside the cup, for exemple.
I think they don't care much until the fights are good. Plus it wouldn't be good news for them to have some big names fighters of into drugs scandals.

I just really hope it's not about painkillers. In my opinion it's just steroid training right now.
I hope. : /

[Cleaner]

I think here at the office, drug-tests are more solid. You go in alone and piss in a cup, and they check the temperature of the liquid to make sure it's straight from the source and then run tests.

I'm not sure how painkillers would affect the rest of your game. I know Mark Kerr mentions it blowing your pain-threshold off the scale in the documentary "Smashing Machine". How it affects the rest of your perception, I wouldn't know. Every fighter has different tolerance for pain, and it's mainly worst afterwards. :-) I'd think something that picks you up makes you think less about the pain also. But as far as I know from a reliable source, K-1 Japan are very strict about narcotics so that shouldn't be an issue.

[Cracked_Knuckle]

Just an example of pain medicines in the ring with a fighter now signed with K-1.

Don Frye has evidentally said he was so out of it with pain medication ( evidentally for a car accident he had just a short time before ) in his fight against Yoshida, that he didn`t tap out due to not knowing his elbow had been dislocated.

I`m not sure how that level of medication would effect your alertness, but I`m pretty sure some of it may help you take a few leg kicks more than normal, though I`d see it being more of an "advantage" in the MMA ring if anywhere.

[voodoomaster]

maybe depends who you are to??