Bonjasky Vs Aerts off!

[K1power]

Fred Royers just mentioned while commenting on K-1 Bellagio that he got a call from Japan that the fight is off and he called either Remy or Aerts (he didn't mention which one he called) and asked if this was true and got it confirmed.

[El Presidente]

GODAMNIT


now what?

[Tommy_Arashikage]

Please don't tell me Aerts is hurt again!

[heckyl]

crap. good thing i didnt submit my eliminations preview yet. crapola on this news.

[heckyl]

watch k1 use this opportunity to bring in bobby ologun for ratings. wo0t.

[( o Y o )]

Interesting.....I wonder who will be coming in to replace who?

[K1power]

Interesting.....I wonder who will be coming in to replace who?
Same here... too bad no further details are known yet.

[Arie-Kanarie]

Please let it not be Aerts who is off...

[( o Y o )]

It says the fight is off, not one of them are out. I wonder if someone else has dropped out and Remy and Aerts have been split so one fights whoever dropped out was going to fight, and the other gets someone new? It would suck to have one of them out with the likes of Hari in.

[El Presidente]

Please no Akebono, Bobby, Wakashoyo or Bud Spencer...

[K1power]

I wonder if the matchups are simply being shuffled or if one of the fighters is out due to injury. Worst case scenario would be Aerts or Remy out and other matchups getting changed because of it with a freak like Ake coming in as a replacement.

[Lord Gaul]

This sucks, but I am curious too see what happens next. I think inside I wanted both guys to make it to the WGP so this news isn't devistating to me.

[Shinbone]

It is Peter Aerts who doesn't fight, he has sustained a nasty injury to his toe and a virus in his body, so he cannot fight on 30 september! This is so bad!

Bert Boks confirmed it.

link: http://www.sportcentrumkops.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2691

I'm devistated by this, I hope Peter will get a wild card to the final.

[Arie-Kanarie]

according to that link there is another fight off as well...

[Shinbone]

according to that link there is another fight off as well...

That has to be Bjorn Bregy.

I will explain to the members. Bert Kops confirmed that there is another fight which cannot continue. He said his opponent has to look in the sky. So that is either Bjorn Bregy or JLB. Because both will be facing giants. So most likely it is Bjorn Bregy, because I cannot understand that Mr. Kops knows something about JLB, so it should be Bjorn Bregy, since he trains in Holland as well.

Damn this sucks! I' ll keep you guys updated.

[Rockatansky]

man these are some baaad news today.

[Arie-Kanarie]

That has to be Bjorn Bregy or Jerome le Banner.

I will explain to the members. Bert Kops confirmed that there is another fight which cannot continue. He said his opponent has to look in the sky. So that is either Bjorn Bregy or JLB. Because both will be facing giants. So most likely it is Bjorn Bregy, because I cannot understand that Mr. Kops knows something about JLB, so it should be Bjorn Bregy, since he trains in Holland as well.

Damn this sucks!

At first I also thought Bregy, but at the 2nd page Bert Kops says "very good" in French...


Big chance we see goodridge in the eliminations I think

[Shinbone]

yes, but I cannot imagine that Bert Kops knows anything about the situation of JLB.
So, I think it has to be Bjorn Bregy. But this is not yet confirmed, so we have to wait and see.
But it is a small world, the fight world that is.

[Lord Gaul]

Damn that sucks, I hade Bjorn beating Schilt. Bring in Iggy and Carter to replace!

[Shinbone]

I see that AKA is online, so maybe he could give us a confirmation?

[Rockatansky]

it won't be Iggy Lord coz he's injured as well.

[AKA]

I just can say.....that it sucks. You'll know more in the next few days.

[Shinbone]

okay

[Jofeljoh!]

Oh man, this is some bad news. Just have to see what will happen. Maybe it will work all out later, I mean, we have seen some strange things over the years right?

[Lord Gaul]

This is probably one of the worst days in K-1 history. We are just being flooded with bad news today.

[Anjew]

DAMN... I knew it was too perfect card to happen...

Peter won't be there for the first time? I feel I'm getting old...

[Mago]

This sure is blasphemy... Not having Peter in there... And no LeBanner either? The GP simply lost a BIG part of it's interest just on those two guys... And I can already picture some terrible replacements coming our way...

This is just sad. I'm praying for an Ignashov comeback, but I'm also betting he's still injured as hell. Damn it man, bad luck for us fans...

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

So who will save the day?
Hunt and Mirko would be dreaming in color I suppose.

[Dado]

Damn.

Lets hope no more big names pull out.

[Tommy_Arashikage]

I say since K-1 was looking to have one of the best finals in YEARS, just say screw it and have Remy face Choi and then leave a spot open for either JLB or Aerts, first one who heals. It may not sound fair, but shit Aerts has never missed the finals in THIRTEEN STRAIGHT YEARS, so I think we can cut him some slack.

[alexey]

I say since K-1 was looking to have one of the best finals in YEARS, just say screw it and have Remy face Choi and then leave a spot open for either JLB or Aerts, first one who heals. It may not sound fair, but shit Aerts has never missed the finals in THIRTEEN STRAIGHT YEARS, so I think we can cut him some slack.

I dont understand, JLB is out too? or only Aerts?

2003 year. Hoost - Abidi, JLB - Botha- planned. Hoost and Jlb - last moment out.

And we had Abidi- Botha, Graham - Greco

[samuaythai]

bad news.

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

I say since K-1 was looking to have one of the best finals in YEARS, just say screw it and have Remy face Choi and then leave a spot open for either JLB or Aerts, first one who heals. It may not sound fair, but shit Aerts has never missed the finals in THIRTEEN STRAIGHT YEARS, so I think we can cut him some slack.

Sorry.
Aerts was already cut slack in 2000 and 2001. Now he has to be treated just like every other fighter.

[BEEF]

I just can say.....that it sucks. You'll know more in the next few days.
God Fu%&ing damn it.

[alexey]

Sorry.
Aerts was already cut slack in 2000 and 2001. Now he has to be treated just like every other fighter.

it is bad news. But not terrible. I like Aerts and i want to see Aerts-Remy, but i want to see Remy in Final. Simply i dont want to see JLB vs Hoost vs Aerts again.... I want to see more fresh fights

[MZN]

It would be kind of redundant to say it sucks but i'll do it just the same:


This sucks~!!!!!

[ANdYX]

Damn, they need to call Kruth.

[Tommy_Arashikage]

Sorry.
Aerts was already cut slack in 2000 and 2001. Now he has to be treated just like every other fighter.

Okay, I'll agree with you there], it will just be weird to not see him there for the first time EVER. I still think they should go with Remy/Choi, and then match two runners up from this year's tourneys. It really wouldn't be that fair, but then breaking up more matches from guys who have been training for weeks for one opponent wouldn't be either.

[sparkles]

Aerts is the type of fighter that can beat ANYONE in one match. He's probable the best mover in the game. However he cannot sustain fighting that way during a tournament. He will get tired. I already mentionned his injuries and I rather see him injured now and thus not fighting in the finals then winning a match in the Finals and having to retire yet again. But I understand that people are dissapointed, he's still a big name. Good news for Bonjaski, he definetely deserves to be among the 8 remaining fighters.

As for JLB. Well if it is indeed an just an insurance problem then it's heavily frustrating. He's mentally there again, ready to go, to train, has the spark back and then a piece of paper prevents you from fighting. Maybe he should have known this in advance and is he partially to blame. That's a hard nut to crack, since he isn't getting any better in the years to come ...

[tonypol]

very bad news ....but maybe Jerome still will fight in FE

[sparkles]

Maybe they should just postpone the event a bit ...

[urdum]

GOD DAMN IT. I feeled lucky when I saw this card and now its ruined.

What would be the perfect substitute for Peter Aerts? Mr Vodka, Carter, Goodridge?

[zymogen]

The card has gotten much worse without Aerts and JLB. And there are not so many exciting replacements either. K-1 needs broader range of good heavyweights.

[( o Y o )]

^^ True....I was thinking yesterday who could they bring in that will put bums in seats? There are a few very good fighters out there, but with Aerts out and the JLB rumors, that is two big names. Perhaps Goodridge would fill one spot, but realistically, who else could fight? And remember, I mean people with a decent following in Japan....??!??! And with just 10 days notice....

[chinese coral]

What would be the perfect substitute for Peter Aerts? Mr Vodka?

Who?

[Shinbone]

Peter Graham for sure! Entertaining fighter with his rollin' thunders, but I do not know if his karate background could cause him trouble politically. (k-1 politics)

Maybe Sam Greco, he is an agressive fighter and a big name as well.
Nah, even Mike Bernardo crossed my mind in a split second, instead of retiring give it a try one more time.:D

Or even good old Frans Johannes Botha. Always in for a few bucks or yens. Cyril Abidi if he is healthy. Ignashov appears to be injured so he is not an option.

Besides the names already mentioned, Goodridge, Williams, McDonald etc.
Oh and if Fransisco Filho is in good health and willing to fight, maybe he could take the gloves on one more time?

[Shinbone]

Who?

Alexey Ignashov he meant.

[chinese coral]

What would be the perfect substitute for Peter Aerts? Mr Vodka?

.................


Alexey Ignashov he meant.

If Urdum refers to him that would be....
fighter bashing.................no?

[Shinbone]

.................




If Urdum refers to him that would be....
fighter bashing.................no?

It is not up to me to decide if this is fighter bashing or not. I'm not a moderator. I assume Urdum meant it in a funny way, and not to offend Ignashov.

[Dado]

Graham would be a perfect last minute substitute, that guy is getting better with every fight, plus he has just come off a 1rd KO win over Andrew Peck last weekend so Im sure he is reasonably fresh to fight in two weeks.

And for the other one, why not Magomed Magomedov? He won a tournament and would be an exciting and more importantly talented addition.

If that doesent work then maybe Carter Williams, but id rather see the two already mentioned in there.

[Shinbone]

Graham would be a perfect last minute substitute, that guy is getting better with every fight, plus he has just come off a 1rd KO win over Andrew Peck last weekend so Im sure he is reasonably fresh to fight in two weeks.

And for the other one, why not Magomed Magomedov? He won a tournament and would be an exciting and more importantly talented addition.

If that doesent work then maybe Carter Williams, but id rather see the two already mentioned in there.

Has Magomed a large fan base yet?

[( o Y o )]

I assume Urdum meant it in a funny way, and not to offend Ignashov.

I read that from him this morning and hoped it meant Petr, as as I said before Iggys last fight, grog has not been a major problem in his game for a long time now. The horse is not only dead and well beaten, it has pretty well decomposed.

[( o Y o )]

Peter Graham for sure! Entertaining fighter with his rollin' thunders, but I do not know if his karate background could cause him trouble politically. (k-1 politics)

Maybe Sam Greco, he is an agressive fighter and a big name as well.
Nah, even Mike Bernardo crossed my mind in a split second, instead of retiring give it a try one more time.:D

Or even good old Frans Johannes Botha. Always in for a few bucks or yens. Cyril Abidi if he is healthy. Ignashov appears to be injured so he is not an option.

Besides the names already mentioned, Goodridge, Williams, McDonald etc.
Oh and if Fransisco Filho is in good health and willing to fight, maybe he could take the gloves on one more time?

All guys you mentioned are quite deserving. They will be replacing a HUGE name though so IMO Graham, Greco (good but no doubt tied up in the Sapp shit-storm), Williams and McD just don't have near the fan base here to pull it off.

I'm guessing it'll be out of GG, Mo, Botha, Abidi and perhaps Azem as they know his fight will be fast paced and exciting.

[Shinbone]

I read that from him this morning and hoped it meant Petr, as as I said before Iggys last fight, grog has not been a major problem in his game for a long time now. The horse is not only dead and well beaten, it has pretty well decomposed.

Could you please be a bit more specific? I don't quite follow you.

[Tommy_Arashikage]

Could you please be a bit more specific? I don't quite follow you.

I think he means the vodka jokes are getting old. Iggy doesn't deserve a shot at all. He's had numerous chances in the past couple years, and hasn't done jack since knocking Schilt out.

[Rockatansky]

Jorgen Kruth seems to be an odd man out this year. he had very impressive win over Botha since then nothing.
i thought guys like graeco and filho are long time retired along with bernardo... Big Daddy or Carter are my top picks. and what happened to Iron leg?

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

Mirko
Hunt
Sapp
Mo
Botha
Williams
Goodridge
Ignashov
Venetiaan
Van Dams
Skelton
Nakasako... OK the list is getting thin.

[Mago]

Well, I would add Xchavit Brajrami (sp? hard name to record :) ) as he did pretty well in 2004 against Holm and Hoost, but got pushed away since then, like many... I just like this guy, and he does carry the Andy Hug aura around him, creating a connection with the fans.

Mirko and Hunt are obviously impossible (specially Mirko, ith his broken shin and nose), Sapp too (I'm hoping!!!), aswell as Ignashov (probably still injured, if he comesback now would probably be just another disappointment).

So yeah, the list is kinda thin. Realisticly, I can see them getting Goodridge (mr Fix It, they call him everytime there's some trouble with the match making), Carter or Mo for the american ppv. The other place against Choi, if LeBanner isn't there for the KO value, I can see no reason for them NOT pushing him to the GP like last year. I hope to God they underestimate Mohammed Magomedov and give him the place (he more than deserves it with all those wildcards flying around), he could easily beat the big guy (although I still thinks he is way too small for the heavies...).

[( o Y o )]

US PPV is a bonus really...at this stage FujiTV ratings are far FAR more important and I expect FujiTV will have some say in approving whoever the replacement is. For that reason I doubt it will be anyone like McD, Carter, VanDamms, etc etc.

I expect it will be either someone the fans here know due to exposure, or someone they expect will make one of the other fighters look good by getting KTFO.

[( o Y o )]

and now I have said that, watch them bring in Lighty and Kemayo just to stuff me up. lol

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

Ustinov would be too much to dream about, huh?
The best kickboxer not in the K-1.

Screw it!
Akebono - Choi 4 is fine with me.

[( o Y o )]

We have about 1000 times more chance of seeing Chad back in than Ustinov I reckon. lol

[Dado]

Has Magomed a large fan base yet?

Hes gotta start somewhere, plus Id rather see him 10000x more than Goodridge again.

[alexey]

Hes gotta start somewhere, plus Id rather see him 10000x more than Goodridge again.

My offer. If only Aerts is out.

Ruslan Karaev - Remy Bonjasky
Badr Hari - Peter Graham

or

Remy Bonjasky - Carter Williams( or Gary Goodridge)

[( o Y o )]

Badr Hari - Peter Graham


Three Oceanians in the Elims would be a happy day for me....particularly if they are not fighting each other.

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

We have about 1000 times more chance of seeing Chad back in than Ustinov I reckon. lol

What did Ustinov do? Pork Tanikawa's mother while wearing a kyokushin karategi and put it on YouTube?

I don't get it.

[Masta]

I dont think that USTINOV is possible as he has fight in couple of days with Hakim in Moscow...

[sparkles]

I'd say Goodridge ( always ready to fight and always entertaining + looked very good vs Aerts ), Mo ( American and very dangerous fighter, the best from the US + looked very good vs Bonjaski ) and Botha ( still a big and well known name in the US because of his boxing background, also great attitude and always ready to rumble).

I really think they should 2 of these three. Mo would be my choice. I'd actually would like to see Goodridge vs Botha.

[tonypol]

Finally .....Aerts is out 100%.....BUT Jerome is the same ????
AKA let's in the darkness....is or not out Jerome???:((

[alexey]

I'd say Goodridge ( always ready to fight and always entertaining + looked very good vs Aerts ), Mo ( American and very dangerous fighter, the best from the US + looked very good vs Bonjaski ) and Botha ( still a big and well known name in the US because of his boxing background, also great attitude and always ready to rumble).

I really think they should 2 of these three. Mo would be my choice. I'd actually would like to see Goodridge vs Botha.

Botha looked very good vs ?????? I think Botha not deserve spot.

[loreia]

cmon people, I know you thought of it:

Sapp - Kimo 2
(rerun of the best fight in K-1 history, closest we'll ever get to seing a double KO in a fight)

:-)

[loreia]

besides, as long as we get to see Sefo-Leko2, they can change the card anyway they lake it...

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

I dont think that USTINOV is possible as he has fight in couple of days with Hakim in Moscow...

Good to hear they are keeping busy. Be sure to tell me who wins.

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

besides, as long as we get to see Sefo-Leko2, they can change the card anyway they lake it...

Actually, I would expect the K-1 top brass to say, "Now that Peter and Jerome are out of the GP, does it really make sense to have Ray eliminate Stefan or vice versa?"

I think they desperately want a Choi vs. Power Puncher fight and that is now Ray. Mo might be a fit too, but he is the guy would got stopped by Kaoklai, and he will never live that down.

[Masta]

Good to hear they are keeping busy. Be sure to tell me who wins.
Yep I will tell you once I know it :)

[( o Y o )]

Actually, I would expect the K-1 top brass to say, "Now that Peter and Jerome are out of the GP, does it really make sense to have Ray eliminate Stefan or vice versa?"

I agree....if two big names drop I expect a shuffle up to be on the boards. That said, if Ray has been dropping weight it would suck for him to now being fighting a completely different type of guy.

[alexey]

I agree....if two big names drop I expect a shuffle up to be on the boards. That said, if Ray has been dropping weight it would suck for him to now being fighting a completely different type of guy.

if LeBanner and Aerts - out,

may be Bregy vs Choi or
Schilt vs Choi(rematch)

[Dado]

I'd say Goodridge ( always ready to fight and always entertaining + looked very good vs Aerts ), Mo ( American and very dangerous fighter, the best from the US + looked very good vs Bonjaski ) and Botha ( still a big and well known name in the US because of his boxing background, also great attitude and always ready to rumble).

I really think they should 2 of these three. Mo would be my choice. I'd actually would like to see Goodridge vs Botha.

You suck dude. lol


What did Ustinov do? Pork Tanikawa's mother while wearing a kyokushin karategi and put it on YouTube?

I don't get it.

Hahahaha.

[urdum]

. I assume Urdum meant it in a funny way, and not to offend Ignashov.

Yes I meant it in a funny way. If I did hurt somebodys feelings with calling Mr. Vodka that Im sorry

[nimeni_70]

Guys I would accept any fight in the FE. But I bet the japaneese will give us another Choi vs Akebono:-(((. I hope Big Daddy will accept to fight there even if he fought recently two hard fights and he'll fight in Trinidad on november 11.

[El Presidente]

Bernardo anyone? Well he's planning on being there for his retirement thingy anyway. Why not make it count and go out in style.

[depechemode]

shit to hear something like this but I would like to see Mahomed Magomedov very much if its truth

[( o Y o )]

Bernardo would be great......I'd hate to see him hurt his neck though.

9 days to go and no announcement.....not many fighters would even say yes at this late stage I think.

[Cracked_Knuckle]

How can such a great fucking card crumble like this?

The ONLY good to come out of this is the fact Aerts injured himself before the fight, and not 10 seconds into it.

Ima guessing we get Botha and Gary fighting instead now.

[Blindo]

I'd like to see a lot of fighters there, eg: Gur, Magomedov, Iggy, Kruth, Abidi, Graham...

[( o Y o )]

Not sure why Kruth doesn't get a look in either....he did score a good win over Botha earlier this year.

[Titan]

Not sure why Kruth doesn't get a look in either....he did score a good win over Botha earlier this year.Same here. But I learned Kruth had taken the summer off, and might not be in shape, although I think he could out-of-shape match a lot of the regular stand-ins

[El Presidente]

Pitchkunov... Pettas... Abidi... Filho... Greco...

[heckyl]

Pettas. LOL. you are reaching deep now. i wish K1 would let him fight.

[El Presidente]

Even Kaoklai would be a decent add.

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

Same here. But I learned Kruth had taken the summer off, and might not be in shape, although I think he could out-of-shape match a lot of the regular stand-ins

Yeah but he is not allowed to punch in the head anymore... Swedes have been seriously handicapped by their legal system.

Sorry. That was mean.

[Shinbone]

Aerts' replacement will most likely be Goodridge, according to a Dutch member who spoke to someone who also fights at the FE. Nothing official yet.

[alexey]

Pitchkunov... Pettas... Abidi... Filho... Greco...

For me Pettas ok!!

Abidi - injured

No Kaoklai !! Only real HW!

[El Presidente]

Bonjansky vs Goodridge would be an interesting match style wise. A risky swinging brawler always coming forward vs a crisp accurate kicker who can get flustered when under pressure.

Goodridge does have what it takes to cause a fluke upset. But if Remy is on the top of his game he'll pick Gary apart and knock out his back teeth

[Shinbone]

Bonjansky vs Goodridge would be an interesting match style wise. A risky swinging brawler always coming forward vs a crisp accurate kicker who can get flustered when under pressure.

Goodridge does have what it takes to cause a fluke upset. But if Remy is on the top of his game he'll pick Gary apart and knock out his back teeth

It's Bonjasky,mate. (without the N)

[El Presidente]

It's Bonjasky,mate. (without the N)

Potayto. Potahto.

voetsek :p

j/k

[Shinbone]

Potayto. Potahto.

voetsek :p

j/k

What is 'voetsek' my vriend? We call a potato - een aardappel.

[Rockatansky]

have anybody heard any news who might be the replacemants?

[sparkles]

Come on MO.

[Jofeljoh!]

What is 'voetsek' my vriend? We call a potato - een aardappel.

I thought you knew Afrikaans!

Voetsek means 'get lost' (or 'fuck off' in worst case scenario, but I'll assume he meant it in a nice way ;) ).

[Shinbone]

I thought you knew Afrikaans!

Voetsek means 'get lost' (or 'fuck off' in worst case scenario, but I'll assume he meant it in a nice way ;) ).

Thanks Jofel, Yes, I thought I knew Afrikaans, but El Presidente uses slang. I sure hope he meant it in a nice way.:P

[Dado]

I think its safe to assume that Mo, Filho, Greco and Bernardo will definately not be in there, I dont see how any of these guys could possibly be ready to fight at all, especially with a weeks notice.

I hope it wont be Gary, because he has taken enough short calls already and I think there are others who would deserve a wildcard more such as Magomedov who won a tournament or Graham, or even Pettas.

[El Presidente]

Thanks Jofel, Yes, I thought I knew Afrikaans, but El Presidente uses slang. I sure hope he meant it in a nice way.:P

Dont worry. All in jest. We still cool. :)

[Shinbone]

It is very fresh but it appears that this will be the new line-up.

Schilt vs Ignashov
Remy Bonjasky vs Bjorn Bregy.

It seems a reliable source frojm Mixfight.nl, I will update as soon as I know more.

[Titan]

I hope it wont be Gary, because he has taken enough short calls already and I think there are others who would deserve a wildcard more such as Magomedov who won a tournament or Graham, or even Pettas.
I completely agree. Goodridge has had a lot of fights recently. And they're all alike. It's predictable, and it's not elegant, and I'd go as far as to say it's not entertaining kickboxing. It's nothing I've got against the guy, but I don't want to see anything more from Gary Goodridge in K-1 this year. Magomedov, on the other hand, was a very entertaining kickboxer in K-1 Scandinavia, and that's what I'd really like to see: entertaining kickboxers over entertainers.

[Dado]

It is very fresh but it appears that this will be the new line-up.

Schilt vs Ignashov
Remy Bonjasky vs Bjorn Bregy.

It seems a reliable source frojm Mixfight.nl, I will update as soon as I know more.

:o I still get giddy when I hear Alexey is gonna fight, especially against Schilt again. I hope he has gotten bac...... oh screw that we all know the rest of that saying.

And following the revenge theme is Bregy vs Remy, Bregy is a lot more dangerous now but I think Remy can do it again!


I completely agree. Goodridge has had a lot of fights recently. And they're all alike. It's predictable, and it's not elegant, and I'd go as far as to say it's not entertaining kickboxing. It's nothing I've got against the guy, but I don't want to see anything more from Gary Goodridge in K-1 this year. Magomedov, on the other hand, was a very entertaining kickboxer in K-1 Scandinavia, and that's what I'd really like to see: entertaining kickboxers over entertainers.

Aha :)

[sparkles]

Now what about the reserve fights; I assume JLB will be fighting in one, Aerts probably too.

[Mago]

I completely agree. Goodridge has had a lot of fights recently. And they're all alike. It's predictable, and it's not elegant, and I'd go as far as to say it's not entertaining kickboxing. It's nothing I've got against the guy, but I don't want to see anything more from Gary Goodridge in K-1 this year. Magomedov, on the other hand, was a very entertaining kickboxer in K-1 Scandinavia, and that's what I'd really like to see: entertaining kickboxers over entertainers.

Don't we all... Don't we all... :D Just K1 org doesn't know this (or maybe the huge mass of general fans either) ;).

Although I do think Gary has managed to overcome his "Beast generation" status, and has become a true K1 fighter (his heart alone), I also agree his style is no news to the elite guys, and there's very few chances they'll ever be upset by him, in a perfect scenario, so this does makes his fights predictable and "limited". It's also painful to watch him get beaten and getting his teeth literally kicked out of his mouth (by Aerts, Feitosa, etc). :(

Thanks a lot for the news Shinbone. At least ONE spot was given to a big name, I liked the "revenge" feeling the match swapping created (for both fights, like Zanzoken said). If they find a good replacement for LeBanner also, this elimination won't loose that much momentum after all (if you can forget the fact Peter and Jerome aren't there :( ).

As for Ignashov... I won't make any statements also. Just hoping for the best, hoping and praying... ;)

[Mago]

BTW, unless they already had him covered for a superfight in this event, I think it's safe to expect a completely out of shape Alexey, and I mean completely. Just look at the difference in physical shape between the Bonjasky fight and the Goodridge fight something like 3 months later... It's no secret he only gets prepared when needed, and on 10 days notice... Hoping for the best... Hoping for the best... :)

[Blindo]

Let there be a miracle and we will see the "real" Iggy again....

[tonypol]

i think will be the fierst time when will see Ignashov down !

[K1power]

Wow... can't wait until it gets confirmed...

[Blindo]

i think will be the fierst time when will see Ignashov down !

Perhaps he will loose on points, but i bet he wont go down!

[K1power]

Ignashov will never go down :)

[tonypol]

AKA --please tell as ....JEROME is IN or not???

[( o Y o )]

Iggy vs Semmy sux. I mean the fight is a dream rematch we have all wanted for ages, but not when one guy has likely not been training much since his last fight and has just 7 days including international traveling.

[Shinbone]

Well, here is an update, these match-ups are now rumours. A guy from Golden Glory team and Mike's gym ( Bregy's gym) both deny these match-ups.

I think it is wise to just wait for an official statement, because all those rumours doesn't bring us anywhere.

Blame me for it.

[Dado]

Still no announcement, but not suprising as Aerts and JLB have massive appeal.

[AKA]

AKA --please tell as ....JEROME is IN or not???
He is out.

[tonypol]

He is out.


ok! 10x for replay ..it is a bad news ,bad who know ,may be he will be in Tokyo in a superfight and some one will can't go forward and Jerome will take he's place.

[alexey]

He is out.

Bad news. I want to see JLB vs Choi.
Who will be Aerts's and JLB's replacement? Is it known?


My offer -

Goodridge - Choi
Bonjasky - bregy
Schilt - Ignashov
Hoost - Fujimoto
Feitosa - Slowinski
Sefo - Leko
Karaev - Hari
Musashi - Arrab

final in Tokyo

Choi - Schilt
Hoost - Feitosa
Sefo-Bonjasky
Hari - Musashi

superfight

Abidi - Karaev
JLB - Leko

[fervoltano]

He is out.

Please AKA,Can you tell why dont fight Jerome in Osaka?

Its for the recording of Asterix et Obelix 3?

Jerome return to fight in K-1 or MMA?

Thanks.

[Mago]

AKA - this is bad, bad news for us... Thanks for the update though.

[pirespece]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
my Goooooood
F********************ck

[tonypol]

AKA: I heard that Jerome is in Osaka ,it is true?

[( o Y o )]

One thing to consider, as with Hoost in 2003....as this is SO close to the date of the event, they may well announce nothing officially until the press conference.

[AKA]

Please AKA,Can you tell why dont fight Jerome in Osaka?

Its for the recording of Asterix et Obelix 3?

Jerome return to fight in K-1 or MMA?

Thanks.
Yes and K1 was aware of this possibility since almost 1 year...
I dont know yet. He wants to get a wild card if its possible

[AKA]

AKA: I heard that Jerome is in Osaka ,it is true?
no.

[il.puparo]

aka, but you tell us that movie insurance said ok, what happenned??
I'm from Romania and many fans from here love jerome

[depechemode]

shit to hear that Jerome is out ,
AKA talk to him and bring him back

[AKA]

They said yes then no...
To much risk when u play in the biggest european production of the year.
If he is injured, they are in the shit...so its normal. It was in the contract.

[heckyl]

NOOO. i saw this coming though. :(

[tonypol]

They said yes then no...
To much risk when u play in the biggest european production of the year.
If he is injured, they are in the shit...so its normal. It was in the contract.

yes it is true ...but it is bad for he's fans....and believe me ...he have A LOTS OF FANS.

may be he will be in a super fight and may be the luck will be with him and someone will can't go forward and Jerome will be there for the WGP.

[sparkles]

They said yes then no...
To much risk when u play in the biggest european production of the year.
If he is injured, they are in the shit...so its normal. It was in the contract.

Could you tell when his contract ends and the movie is supposed to be done?

[Rockatansky]

this god damned movie better be worth it... AKA you should show these movie insurance pussies some JLb's fights and tell 'em who he will go against.
there's no way in a world that G_Man is gonna get JLB injured. JLB has a huge fan base in a world and if he makes the final 8 (100%) and has a chance to get a title - down the line it will be free promotion for this movie worlwide and they should be happy about it.
it's all about the hype. is there any way that you can convince those idiots thats it's acually good for them if JLB fights?

... .

[il.puparo]

maybe the contract which he signed has a stipulation: if he injured himself fighting, he is gonna pay the expenditures of the days cannot performing in the movie...who know, i think is a lot of money between and he don't want to risk, i understand, but i'm disappointed because i like him very much, is my favorite fighter and he's not injured, but show must go on, too bad that aren't too many talented fighters coming from behind

[alexey]

there's no way in a world that G_Man is gonna get JLB injured.
... .


I agree. Probability very very small. And may be - Last chance to become the champion

[CentralKickboxing.Org]

JLB can still do everything in his movie contract after the fight so long as he doesn't get cut. Even a KO will mean nothing to the director. Bruises last 2 or three days tops with these kinds of guys. Hell, Ray healed up to normal after the Schilt fight by morning the following day.

A cut would be a set back. Unless the make up magicians can work around it.

[Rockatansky]

not only make up brother CKO but nowadays in post production they can make anybody look - even JLB - digitally as pretty as angelina jolie if they really want to.

[Titan]

JLB can still do everything in his movie contract after the fight so long as he doesn't get cut. Even a KO will mean nothing to the director. Bruises last 2 or three days tops with these kinds of guys. Hell, Ray healed up to normal after the Schilt fight by morning the following day.

A cut would be a set back. Unless the make up magicians can work around it.
Well, I don't know what's in his movie contract, and I don't know what you know about the contract, but I'd guess they're more worried about breaks than bruises or cuts. I know I would be. JLB has broken his arm once. It's unlikely it will happen again, but it has happened. Fighters injure feet and ankles every so often. A cast isn't easy to put make-up on and have disappear, and injured feet/ankles leaves an actor that can't walk. Those injuries are going to make anything with the movie production difficult, unless the remaining scenes are still and of his face only.

[AKA]

Its not really about the cut imho.
But if u break a bone or get a serious articulation injury (leg, shoulder....) you cant play the role of the best roman athlete who need run a lot and do a lots of things with his hands...

The movie will end at the end of October. JLB has several scene to play in october.

[alexey]

Its not really about the cut imho.
But if u break a bone or get a serious articulation injury (leg, shoulder....) you cant play the role of the best roman athlete who need run a lot and do a lots of things with his hands...

The movie will end at the end of October. JLB has several scene to play in october.

About replacements is something known?

Now i want to see

Bregy - Choi and Bregy by Ko
Goodridge - Bonjasky
Schilt - Ignashov(???)

I hope JLB will be in superfight in December.

[fervoltano]

We should send a lot of emails to K-1 organization to ask a wild card to JLB in the Tokyodome,that do how in the MAX,Virgil fight with a wild card.

Wild Card to JLB in Tokyodome.

[( o Y o )]

that do how in the MAX,Virgil fight with a wild card

MAX did it this year for a variety of reasons, but the choice of Virgil getting the invite was made before the official poll was put up (even though he scored very well there too) because most of the officials were pissed at the ref in the Buakaw fight, not to mention the amount of heart he showed in it.

Not fighting in the Elims at all and getting a wild card is tougher. It may still happen but it would mean one of the winners gets screwed out of their spot. If JLB gets in with one Aerts will want in too, which means 2 winners screwed out. Now, if Choi manages to win his fight I have NO problem with him getting kicked curbside, but it would suck to have one of the legit winners kicked out just as much as it would suck to have LEBanner and Aerts out of the GP. Probably one will be in though.

Maybe a nice halfway mark is Aerts vs LeBanner for the reserve fight. As we saw last year, the reserver CAN go all the way.

[( o Y o )]

Looks like Remy vs Gary Goodridge is now unofficially official. It was rumoured, and now Remy has mentioned Garys name on Eurosport.

[Lord Gaul]

Nice, if Remy keeps his hands up he should make it to the WGP by decision. But we all know that Goodridge is going to come out swinging so it should be a very entertaining bout. GG always delivers.

[BEEF]

No JLB.... I am fucking pissed. Boobs is right though. If jerome got a pass, Peter definitely deservs one too, if not more because he has been fighting all year.

[alexey]

We should send a lot of emails to K-1 organization to ask a wild card to JLB in the Tokyodome,that do how in the MAX,Virgil fight with a wild card.

Wild Card to JLB in Tokyodome.

No, only reservfight or superfight. Or as replacement of the injured before tournament.

[alexey]

MAX did it this year for a variety of reasons, but the choice of Virgil getting the invite was made before the official poll was put up (even though he scored very well there too) because most of the officials were pissed at the ref in the Buakaw fight, not to mention the amount of heart he showed in it.

Not fighting in the Elims at all and getting a wild card is tougher. It may still happen but it would mean one of the winners gets screwed out of their spot. If JLB gets in with one Aerts will want in too, which means 2 winners screwed out. Now, if Choi manages to win his fight I have NO problem with him getting kicked curbside, but it would suck to have one of the legit winners kicked out just as much as it would suck to have LEBanner and Aerts out of the GP. Probably one will be in though.

Maybe a nice halfway mark is Aerts vs LeBanner for the reserve fight. As we saw last year, the reserver CAN go all the way.

Aerts vs LeBanner in reservfight??? Please no.

Aerts vs TBA
JLB vs TBA may be,

but i want to see Abidi vs Who will lose in (Hari vs Karaev)

[tonypol]

noo...Jerome vs Aerts in superfight ,it is a stupidity to put Jerome and Aerts to fight,both are very good fighters and it is no reason to fight.
and about the wild card ..i think it is impossible to get Jerome or Aerts a wild card ,because will create a precedent and all the best fighters will wants wild cards in the future ,and 2 wild cards will be to much and is hard to say how deserve most a wild card :Jerome or Aerts ....i go for Jerome because i'm he's fan.

[Masta]

I watched yesterday Showtim Trophy and there was small interview with Remy Bonjasky and he said he will be fighting Gary Goodridge....

[Mago]

Well, if I rememeber correctly, he did say that IF he were to fight Goodridge, that he would be ready (I got the feeling he isn't official yet, but very likely, as it was the Eurosport guy who first said Gary would be fighting him in the Elims). He also said it was a shame Peter got injured, as they are friends... It would be a great match for sure, specially if a couple of years ago...

[Mago]

Of course this means no swapping opponents with Schilt, so if somehow Ignashov enters this tournement, it will be as a direct replacement for LeBanner (against Choi), and not agaisnt the champ as the rumour said.

[alexey]

Of course this means no swapping opponents with Schilt, so if somehow Ignashov enters this tournement, it will be as a direct replacement for LeBanner (against Choi), and not agaisnt the champ as the rumour said.


Not bad both variants

and

Choi - Bregy
Schilt - Ingnashov

and
Choi - Ignashov
Schilt - Bregy

[sparkles]

No JLB.... I am fucking pissed. Boobs is right though. If jerome got a pass, Peter definitely deservs one too, if not more because he has been fighting all year.

I think JLB will definetely do a super-reserve bout at the finals. But what with Aerts? They could both do a separate bout, but who will get the first reserve bout? Same for the wild card, if someone drops out injured ( fi Sefo, Leko or Hoost ), who will get the spot?

Aerts vs JLB would be cool, but they will very likely bang eachother up once again with the known consequences.

All this is heading in one way .. a rivalry between Aerts and JLB. Who will get preferential treatement. Will it be 3 time champ and popular Aerts or will it be the popular JLB who can even reverse decisions ...

[( o Y o )]

^^ Last year or the year before (I`m too lazy to search) they had two reserve matches, one for the AB bracket and one for the CD bracket...they could do the same this year I guess.

[fervoltano]

JLB should have a wild card for the finals,the k-1 organization known that he is playing the movie in this month from 1 year ago,its a bad planification of the K-1 organization.

The lossers are the fans,that loss a peter and jerome for the finals.

The wild card is necesary,or want see a finals with Choi,Schilt,Musashi,Fujimoto and company,i want see the best figthers of the world,and jerome is the best,both aerts.

Wild card from JLB.

[( o Y o )]

the k-1 organization known that he is playing the movie in this month from 1 year ago,its a bad planification of the K-1 organization.

While I truely hope JLB is in the GP this year, you cannot hold K-1 responsible for them holding the Elims the same time they have held them for several years.

[alexey]

JLB should have a wild card for the finals,the k-1 organization known that he is playing the movie in this month from 1 year ago,its a bad planification of the K-1 organization.

The lossers are the fans,that loss a peter and jerome for the finals.

The wild card is necesary,or want see a finals with Choi,Schilt,Musashi,Fujimoto and company,i want see the best figthers of the world,and jerome is the best,both aerts.

Wild card from JLB.

Sefo, Feitosa, Schilt, Bonjasky, Musashi, Hoost, Hari - good company and without JLB....

Íe has made a decision to be acted in film during the important tournament and has made choice. The cinema has appeared more important than K-1 for he

[pirespece]

the insurrance decision was a little bit a lottery for jlb
yes or no.....

Unfortunately he lost at this game.....

[( o Y o )]

Intereting post by Gary Goodridge on his site to someone saying he heard Remy saying they'd be fighting at the Elims...

Well this is all new to me :shock: WoW I have not been approached by anyone about the fight but I am up on others fighting. If I was asked I would take it but I am not in shape to take such a fight of that caliber right at this moment. So Gary Goodridge says yes he would take it but he has not been asked. I am off to Jamacia soon with my kids anyways

Not sure if it is true, or if he has been told to keep it under his hat until the press conference....

things are getting interesting.

[( o Y o )]

http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/k1/headlines/20060925-00000035-spnavi-spo.html

Update!

Aerts MAY be out. lol

It quotes Tanikawa as saying that the rumors in Europe that Aerts may be dropping out are true. That he has a virus (picked up possibly from food) and though aerts usually says he is OK even with major injuries, he has said he may not be able to make it...so it is obviously severe.

He says they are doing their best to get a reserver, but that they wont count Aerts out until they absolutely must.

[Shinbone]

Stange, as Aerts himself declared that he cannot fight, since he is been healthy for just a week. I might see him fight in the FE if they let him fight Fujimoto, I'm sure he beat him without training, otherwise I don't see how K-1 wont count him out?

[( o Y o )]

Not so strange as this is just Tanikawa letting the people know that he knew Aerts was sick, but making them feel he MIGHT still make it.....so basically still getting TV viewers to watch and see if Aerts is there or not.

It is just spin advertising.

[Shinbone]

Not so strange as this is just Tanikawa letting the people know that he knew Aerts was sick, but making them feel he MIGHT still make it.....so basically still getting TV viewers to watch and see if Aerts is there or not.

It is just spin advertising.

So it's actually a smart move by Mr. Tanikawa?

[( o Y o )]

marketing-wise, i guess so. he is just trying to save what he has already invested i guess,

[Mago]

Even without the sickness, there's still the lack of training and the toe injury, so basicly there's little chances of him ever beating a healthy Bonjasky, even if by a miracle they do get him in...

As for feeding him Fujimoto, I think with a week's notice, Hoost wouldn't be happy at all to see his match swapped...

[sparkles]

It's better this way, JLB needs to be 100% focussed and prepared when he wants to fight and as long as he has to make the movie he would be too distracted doing both.
It's the movie or fighting, not both at the same time.

[Aldrich]

Yeah I kinda agree. Though it's not really the same situation, last time he showed up unprepared/not in fight mood he got beaten by a supposedly inferior opponent (Botha). Who knows, maybe the same thing would have happend against Choi.