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( o Y o )
1st February 2006, 10:23 AM
I don`t remember what he weighed in at for Hawaii, but he is 111kg now, which is damned huge for a Japanese that isn`t THAt tall.

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Dado
1st February 2006, 11:02 AM
How tall is he?

I guess he didnt like being bullied by Goodridge. Hopefully the size gain works out for him.

( o Y o )
1st February 2006, 11:12 AM
178cm.......8cm or 9cm less than Musashi.

Shinbone
1st February 2006, 01:11 PM
That is indeed a lot of weight, especially when you consider that he doesn't have that much fat on his body. If I remember well, I thought that Fujimoto ones weighted 116 kg.

I don't want to accuse him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he may use a little stimulants, and I don't mean whey proteins.

K1power
1st February 2006, 02:16 PM
That is indeed a lot of weight, especially when you consider that he doesn't have that much fat on his body. If I remember well, I thought that Fujimoto ones weighted 116 kg.

I don't want to accuse him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he may use a little stimulants, and I don't mean whey proteins.

I think that you mixed up Fujimoto with Carter Williams. When the two of them fought, Fuji was at about 95-96 kg and Carter was at 116. Fred Royers than mentioned that "you can see that Carter Williams with his built and 116 kg's is a natural heavyweight whereas Fujimoto looks like a middleweight "made" into a HW". So I don't think Fuji ever came in that heavy. If he managed to maintain the same speed and stamina as before this should give him a serious power boost. Fujimoto seems really dedicated and I really like him as a fighter. With a little luck, he might win one of the qualification tournaments this year.

Shinobu
1st February 2006, 02:22 PM
That is indeed a lot of weight, especially when you consider that he doesn't have that much fat on his body. If I remember well, I thought that Fujimoto ones weighted 116 kg.

I don't want to accuse him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he may use a little stimulants, and I don't mean whey proteins.
You may not want to, but you did ;-). Seriously though, my guess is a lot of guys in combat sports (non olympic of course) take "stuff". Wether it is "obvious" or not. Fujimoto has allways been pretty buff that doesn't necessarily mean he's taking it. Sylvia looks like a slob, yet he took (takes?) it.
I hope beefing up does good things for Fujimoto since I really like the guy. If anything it makes him more marketable and he may try for Strongman contests as the only japanese participant.

Jofeljoh!
1st February 2006, 02:25 PM
That's funny, reminds of a conversation with commentators on Eurosport last Fightclub, when Wurstenberg discussed it with Perry Ubeda; Ubeda also said that he never considerd going heavyweight, because he believed he would come short with his height of 1.76 (or something close). He mentioned some names like Akhramenko in the mix; Ubeda fought him as a middleweight, but Akhramenko came short to JLB and Saki for instance. (he mentioned someone else, but can't remember anymore.

Shinbone
1st February 2006, 02:30 PM
You may not want to, but you did ;-). Seriously though, my guess is a lot of guys in combat sports (non olympic of course) take "stuff". Wether it is "obvious" or not. Fujimoto has allways been pretty buff that doesn't necessarily mean he's taking it. Sylvia looks like a slob, yet he took (takes?) it.
I hope beefing up does good things for Fujimoto since I really like the guy. If anything it makes him more marketable and he may try for Strongman contests as the only japanese participant.

I did not say that he is on the juice, I did say that it wouldn't surprise me if he does juice.:) I'm not accusing him

Shinbone
1st February 2006, 02:35 PM
That's funny, reminds of a conversation with commentators on Eurosport last Fightclub, when Wurstenberg discussed it with Perry Ubeda; Ubeda also said that he never considerd going heavyweight, because he believed he would come short with his height of 1.76 (or something close). He mentioned some names like Akhramenko in the mix; Ubeda fought him as a middleweight, but Akhramenko came short to JLB and Saki for instance. (he mentioned someone else, but can't remember anymore.

I don't get it, Akramenko is a legimate hw. He is 192 cm, so he is a hw.

You see a lot of fighters in the beginning of their carreer as some sort of a middle weight, but with age one will become heavier. It is a natural process.

If you saw Hoost and Aerts and Ignashov they were all very skinny

K1power
1st February 2006, 02:42 PM
That's funny, reminds of a conversation with commentators on Eurosport last Fightclub, when Wurstenberg discussed it with Perry Ubeda; Ubeda also said that he never considerd going heavyweight, because he believed he would come short with his height of 1.76 (or something close). He mentioned some names like Akhramenko in the mix; Ubeda fought him as a middleweight, but Akhramenko came short to JLB and Saki for instance. (he mentioned someone else, but can't remember anymore.

The other one he mentioned was Azem Maksutaj. Still I think with all due respect Ubeda was talking a lot of crap. He was almost constantly downtalking on K-1 and hyping Super League as the more exciting and better thing to watch etc. He said that JLB isn't a really technical fighter and relies on his strength alone while commentating on him taking apart Goodridge. Wustenberg didn't really agree with him and said that in that match for instance JLB showed a lot of technique but Ubeda reacted kinda unimpressed.

MZN
1st February 2006, 02:48 PM
That's funny, reminds of a conversation with commentators on Eurosport last Fightclub, when Wurstenberg discussed it with Perry Ubeda; Ubeda also said that he never considerd going heavyweight, because he believed he would come short with his height of 1.76 (or something close). He mentioned some names like Akhramenko in the mix; Ubeda fought him as a middleweight, but Akhramenko came short to JLB and Saki for instance. (he mentioned someone else, but can't remember anymore.

You mean Maksutaj I think or was it Majstorovic...

Anyway in Ubeda's fight against Akhramenko Royers already mentioned that he wouldn't be surprised if the younger skinny Akhramenko would grow up to be a heavy and there are other stories such as Aschwin Balrak. There isn't much choice between -76 and k-1 style open weight.

Other than that I think Ubeda has a point but nearly killing yourself to stay at that weight and not being able to show your true colors can be frustrating too. This combined with my first point you easily get this situation where fighters like that get completely obliterated against a true (skilled) hw but are able on the other hand to win a tournament for the sake of the final elimations and even the final eight.

And the Saki fight, I don't think it had much to do with weight, more that Saki is a realy dangerous fighter.

Aldrich
1st February 2006, 03:17 PM
I don't get it, Akramenko is a legimate hw. He is 192 cm, so he is a hw.

You see a lot of fighters in the beginning of their carreer as some sort of a middle weight, but with age one will become heavier. It is a natural process.

If you saw Hoost and Aerts and Ignashov they were all very skinny

Well height doesn't have much to do with being a hw or not, you can be extremely tall and skinny.

And Hoost is definitly not a natural hw, if I remember correctly he was 79kgs at 25 year old, he had to put a lot of effort to gain that much weight and fight among the big boys.

Shinbone
1st February 2006, 03:55 PM
Well height doesn't have much to do with being a hw or not, you can be extremely tall and skinny.

And Hoost is definitly not a natural hw, if I remember correctly he was 79kgs at 25 year old, he had to put a lot of effort to gain that much weight and fight among the big boys.

Your right about that height has not much to do with being a hw. But the taller you are the heavier your are, in general.

For instance: a man who stands 180 cm, his natural weight should be around 80 kg for an average man. Some are skinny and are 70 kg and some are more chubby and weigh 90 kg. But in order to become 100 kg, a man should add 20 kg of muscle and a bit of fat.

For instance a man who stands 193 cm: his natural weight should be around 93 kg, so in order to become 100 kg he has to add only 7 kg.

In that case height has something to do with being an heavy weight.
Sure some short people make a 100 kg easily, but in general is takes a lot of affords.

Pettas for instance is a guy who is way too short to be a hw IMO. Or Kakuda for that matter.

And for Hoost he was not a natural hw for sure, but now he is. He weighs well over 100 kg, I guess 106 kg or 108 kg. If he wasn't a real hw he would be something like 92 kg.

Lone Wolf
1st February 2006, 11:15 PM
I hope this can help Fuji improve even more. He`s improved a lot already last year and he`s had some OK fights (except for the KO he suffered from Tomihira).

Hope to see him doing something big (or decently big) this year.

I`d like to see him kick Carter`s ass.

( o Y o )
1st February 2006, 11:20 PM
I am sure Fuji wants a rematch with Carter as he was pissed after the last one.

As for his weight, I would doubt it is 100% natural, but having said that prohormones (which only became illegal in the US last year I think) are still legal in Japan. I guess mentally there is quite a difference between taking something that is over-the-counter, and sticking a needle in your arm.

Prohormones are what Musashi has admitted to having taken back when he went from a skinny little kid to the size he is now.

LethalSassonic
2nd February 2006, 06:07 AM
Well he hasn't qualified for the WGP ever, so he's trying to get bigger, maybe it will help

CentralKickboxing.Org
2nd February 2006, 06:53 AM
I hope this can help Fuji improve even more. He`s improved a lot already last year and he`s had some OK fights (except for the KO he suffered from Tomihira).

Hope to see him doing something big (or decently big) this year.

I`d like to see him kick Carter`s ass.

LOL. No one on Carter's team has anything nasty to say about Fuj. He is a great guy with fighting spirit. I hope he is back in the US as he is the kind of fighter US fans love to see.

He and Carter will probably fight again. It is just the kind of matchup that is interesting. Carter is better offensively due to his boxing background, but neither guy cares a whole lot about defense so anything can happen.

( o Y o )
2nd February 2006, 06:59 AM
LOL. No one on Carter's team has anything nasty to say about Fuj. He is a great guy with fighting spirit. I hope he is back in the US as he is the kind of fighter US fans love to see.

Tanikawa did say they planned another Hawaii event this year, so I expect given the way the crowd backed him and the performance he gave there last year, he will go their either in the GP or as a superfight (depending on if he wins the Japan GP).

Lord Gaul
3rd February 2006, 06:57 PM
You mean Maksutaj I think or was it Majstorovic...

Anyway in Ubeda's fight against Akhramenko Royers already mentioned that he wouldn't be surprised if the younger skinny Akhramenko would grow up to be a heavy and there are other stories such as Aschwin Balrak. There isn't much choice between -76 and k-1 style open weight.

Other than that I think Ubeda has a point but nearly killing yourself to stay at that weight and not being able to show your true colors can be frustrating too. This combined with my first point you easily get this situation where fighters like that get completely obliterated against a true (skilled) hw but are able on the other hand to win a tournament for the sake of the final elimations and even the final eight.

And the Saki fight, I don't think it had much to do with weight, more that Saki is a realy dangerous fighter.
Those that know me know that I love Akhramenko and talking about him grabs my attention. MZN is right, he was planned to be a heavyweight all along at at 96KG he looks good as one. He has some big wins and he fights all the top names, so the move up in weight was a good one for him and others like Hoost, Ignashov, Holm, etc

I do not however think it is a good move for Fuji to gain weight. He just had the best year of his career and to me that is a sign of doing it right. If he feels he has to get bigger so he doesn't get bullied by bigger guys like Goodridge he has the wrong idea. It makes more since to get smaller and work stick and move against Goodridge then to try and get bigger and out power which sounds dumb even as I'm typing it.

Bottomline, stay at the weight you were last year and focus more on developing skill.

Shinbone
3rd February 2006, 09:59 PM
I agree with you Lord Gaul. A fighter should always fight at his own weight! Cutting too much weight is bad and bulking up too much in also bad for numeberous reasons.

It looks like fashion or something, but it looks like a lot of fighters in K-1 are thinking, the bigger the better, and that is just not true as proved by the lighter fighters.

All the k-1 winners were around 100 kg ( slightly less or more) at the time they won the k-1, except for Hunt and Schilt. But Hunt is a sherman tank and Schilt is 9 feet tall.

The same goes for boxing, Tyson, Holyfield, Muhammed Ali were all around 100 kg in their prime. In fact even less.

With the 3 rounders in K-1, a fighter can be heavier than when the 5 rounders were used.