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mk-
18th December 2004, 08:32 PM
Sahin 'Kaas' Yakut beats Mario Princ, 4th round ko (lowkicks)
Albert Kraus beats Jose Barraras, 1th round ko (punches)
Joeri Mes beats De Sousa, 1th round ko (punches)

Shinobu
18th December 2004, 08:38 PM
The Yakut-Princ fight was pretty entertaining.
Kraus' opponent was simply overmatched. Kraus downed him 3 times in the first round to get the stoppage.

Shinobu
18th December 2004, 08:48 PM
Mes wins vs Souza, 1st Rd ref stoppage (3 downs).
Souza was simply overclassed and left himself wide open for Mes' boxing.

Shinobu
18th December 2004, 09:03 PM
Malaipet-Venroy had to be stopped due to a knee injury of Venroy. Looks serious-hope he gets better.

-=[DM]=-
18th December 2004, 11:08 PM
Yakut vs Princ was really entertaining imo, Yakut was nailing princ with lowkicks and knees in the clinch at will.

And it was nice to see Kraus steamroll Barraras, this fight should work as a confidence builder for kraus who haven't looked really good as of late. But I hope that he never wears that gladiator/ice hockey costume as his entrance clothes again, man that was horrible.

DND
19th December 2004, 05:44 AM
kraus proves, once again, that k-1 max sexes superleague in the anus

Titan
19th December 2004, 07:22 AM
kraus proves, once again, that k-1 max sexes superleague in the anus
First, please mind your language as stated in the rules.

Secondly, Kraus' fight was a terrible, terrible mismatch that proved nothing. Why put him against a guy with a decent record and no SuperLeague experience at all?

-=[DM]=-
19th December 2004, 08:29 AM
Kraus' fight was a terrible, terrible mismatch that proved nothing. Why put him against a guy with a decent record and no SuperLeague experience at all?
The fight itself didn't prove anything, because as you said it was a mismatch. But maybe it meant something for Kraus in terms of a confidence builder after two straight losses in k-1 max. Even though the opposition was subpar it's a win under his belt.

chak-wyk
19th December 2004, 12:52 PM
Mes and krause had to low class fighters this is not good from the organisation,Put Menno Dijkstra he beat 5 months ago easy k.o.Soares 3 round or Amir Zeyada who beat k.o.Rozenblad it will be much better fights.

Shinobu
19th December 2004, 01:12 PM
Oh and I was fairly impressed with Hladky (I used to really not like him) he showed good effort vs Swerts and lost a VERY close dec. (which he deserved imo).
Crooke beat an (seemingly) underweight Frenchman, latter showed tremendous heart staying in the fight, when he was almost finished in the early rounds.
Some Belgian guy won vs. Bonfiglio, who still looks too skinny and awkward to be in SL.

All in all a pretty good show.

Amron
19th December 2004, 03:45 PM
the show was total bullshit IMHO

all in all a pretty bad show

the only two fights on SL level were Malaipet vs Van Venrooy and Swerts vs Hladky

the rest was total crap

blablabla that fight of Kraus proved exactly zero for him. there is no honour in KOing a totally outclassed opponent. put up any decent MT fighter against Kraus under MT rules, or just with the clinch and Albert will have serious problems. his game is just way too one-dimensional these days

at least all dutch fighters showed respect for their subpar opponents, and didnt make fun of them.

the matchmaking was one of the worst i have ver seen.

Konate took this fight on a very short notice, hence him not being in a good condition, so said he still held out for 5rounds: respect

Shinobu
19th December 2004, 05:55 PM
the show was total bullshit IMHO

all in all a pretty bad show

the only two fights on SL level were Malaipet vs Van Venrooy and Swerts vs Hladky

the rest was total crap

blablabla that fight of Kraus proved exactly zero for him. there is no honour in KOing a totally outclassed opponent. put up any decent MT fighter against Kraus under MT rules, or just with the clinch and Albert will have serious problems. his game is just way too one-dimensional these days

at least all dutch fighters showed respect for their subpar opponents, and didnt make fun of them.

the matchmaking was one of the worst i have ver seen.

Konate took this fight on a very short notice, hence him not being in a good condition, so said he still held out for 5rounds: respect
I think that's pushing it a bit too far.
Yakut-Princ, Hladky-Swerts, Crooke-Frenchman (Konate?) were all good fights imo.
I agree though that Kraus' fight proves nothing. But about putting him under full MT rules-you might want to take a look at this year's Shootboxing Cup...

Kamatari
19th December 2004, 06:19 PM
In S-Cup tournament setting it's almost like K-1 rules, so no extended clinching or elbows. Kaolan also wanted a rematch with Kraus under MT rules.

Amron
19th December 2004, 06:35 PM
Princ fought like a warrior, but was outclassed with ease by Kaas, he was just no match for him

Crooke vs Konate wasnt a good fight IMHO. Konate, due to lack of condition was on the run after the 1round, Crook hunting him down, that wasnt an interesting fight at all. yes, it was better than the first three fights, but still far away from a good SL bout.

on the other hand you named only 3 fights you thought were good out of a mere 10.

the best fight would probably have been Chris vs Malaipet...

MZN
20th December 2004, 06:00 PM
I wasn't impressed at all by this sl edition. Mismatches, freak injuries and fights who already had a winner after the first round.

Is it me or were we spoiled in the beginning with Kraus, JWP, Choppa, El Amrani, Ole Laursen and others on the same card? They still do have good fighters but if you match them with opponents that lack the skills than it is no good.

Imo Hladky got robbed and was totally cool about it. It shows class.

Kobayashi
21st December 2004, 01:39 PM
Is there anyone in Albert's Superleague division (67kg?) that could beat him? From the result of his Superleague fights so far... it doesn't look like it.

Amron
21st December 2004, 05:17 PM
JCS could destroy him

others able to give him a good fight for sure: Paulo Balicha/Malaipet/...

Yoshihiro Sato would just eat Kraus for breakfest under full MMT rules

(BTW all those mentionend fighters can fight under 67kgs)

Mudrock
26th December 2004, 09:16 PM
Can Sato really go under -67? He looks really skinny at 70 kg and is very tall, even for that weight. I agree that he would be trouble for Kraus though. SL should bring him back.

I see a growing tendency in SL to give dutch fighters really easy fights and sometimes award them questionable decision: Chris vs Malaipet 1, Bonfiglio vs Van Denderen etc...

It's a problem they have to deal with soon.

As for Hladky he didn't impress me much, but I really dislike Swerts so take that with a grain of salt.

walker
27th December 2004, 12:56 PM
I see a growing tendency in SL to give dutch fighters really easy fights and sometimes award them questionable decision: Chris vs Malaipet 1, Bonfiglio vs Van Denderen etc...

It's a problem they have to deal with soon.



The Bonfiglio-Van Denderen decision was indeed BS, but Van Denderen is Belgian, not Dutch. Van Venrooy-Malaipet was a very close fight and could have gone either way. Personally, I agree with the decision.

El Presidente
27th December 2004, 01:35 PM
I wonder how Otsuki from AJFK would do in SL...

Mudrock
27th December 2004, 07:10 PM
The Bonfiglio-Van Denderen decision was indeed BS, but Van Denderen is Belgian, not Dutch. Van Venrooy-Malaipet was a very close fight and could have gone either way. Personally, I agree with the decision.

Him being belgian doesn't really make much difference IMO since most belgian pros seem to train in Holland anyway and a lot of them speak dutch as their native tounge.

As for VV Malaipet 1 I saw Malaipet kicking VV around like a heavy bag for the entire fight. Not even close IMO, but to each his own. I thought it was the worst decision I've seen outside that damned King of the Ring tourney in France. Now that's bullshit.

Amron
28th December 2004, 09:50 AM
Can Sato really go under -67? He looks really skinny at 70 kg and is very tall, even for that weight. I agree that he would be trouble for Kraus though. SL should bring him back.


yeah Sato is 184cm tall...maybe he cant make that weight anymore, but still, i think with 70- he could fuck up Kraus and Masato in K-1max...under full MT rules it would be a done deal...

but since he started a campaign for the Lumpini welterweight titel last september (at which till now he is on a suceeding path), i dont know if we will see him anytime soon in SL

Amron
28th December 2004, 09:54 AM
I wonder how Otsuki from AJFK would do in SL...

i have never seen him fight, just heard of him...does he aslo compete in Bkk or 'only' in AJKF events?? What record/Key-Victoreis does he have under his belt?? Weight/Height/Used Techniques/Moves??

walker
28th December 2004, 12:01 PM
Him being belgian doesn't really make much difference IMO since most belgian pros seem to train in Holland anyway and a lot of them speak dutch as their native tounge.

As for VV Malaipet 1 I saw Malaipet kicking VV around like a heavy bag for the entire fight. Not even close IMO, but to each his own. I thought it was the worst decision I've seen outside that damned King of the Ring tourney in France. Now that's bullshit.

I'm pretty sure Van Denderen trains in Belgium. Him speaking Dutch is hardly enough reason to assume he gets preferential treatment from the judges.

Nearly all of Malaipet's kicks landed on Van Venrooy's arms. VV landed crisp punches and some good lowkicks and sweeps. Decision could have just as easily gone to Malaipet, but in no way was it a robbery, imo. Too bad the rematch ended the way it did. They still have unfinished business.

Chief
1st January 2005, 09:20 AM
I think that Swerts and Kraus are training at the same gym, and they are good friends.
Btw. what's the diffenrence between NJKF and AJKF? Are those just two different organizations. Bouts are under full MT rules, or what?