89 Gono vs Hardy

[Fozzy]

WTF is this all about? I havent seen any of the fights yet (shitty bandwidth) but this is just retarded

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~Foz

[tinobar]

yeah i havent seen that one they never air the ones i wanna see


but lol at big dan M it never fails

i should be able to find now that you remind me

[ilostmydog]

WTF is this all about? I havent seen any of the fights yet (shitty bandwidth) but this is just retarded

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~Foz

One of them is Gono throwing a flying knee at the bell and Dan decided to bodycheck him so it wouldn't connect. The other is Dan tackling Gono after Hardy got hit with a nutshot.

[Fozzy]

someone told me one of the interruptions was just after the buzzer in one round.... I'm seriously doubting BOTH were at the buzzer. Someone will have to fill me in.

~Foz

[Fozzy]

One of them is Gono throwing a flying knee at the bell and Dan decided to bodycheck him so it wouldn't connect. The other is Dan tackling Gono after Hardy got hit with a nutshot.

looks so sus lol but cheers

~Foz

[tinobar]

i just saw it gono knees hardy twice in the face and big DAN M pushes gono way

[EckY]

Big D should have been taken out to the car park and shot in the back of the head, I cant stand him.

[Shiruba]

One of them is Gono throwing a flying knee at the bell and Dan decided to bodycheck him so it wouldn't connect. The other is Dan tackling Gono after Hardy got hit with a nutshot.
Wasn't it because he knee'd him in the head while on of his knees was on the ground?

[FieldingMellish]

Gono landed two illegal knees to the face that pretty much knocked Dan out. He took a little time to rest (nowhere near the full five minutes he's allowed) and then carried on fighting, like the true Englishman he is.

The second is, just as ilostmydog said, Mirgliotta pushing Gono out of the way as he tried a flying something or ever just after the final buzzer sounded.

[gols]

That is some seriously selective editing there

[MZN]

Gono landed two illegal knees to the face that pretty much knocked Dan out. He took a little time to rest (nowhere near the full five minutes he's allowed) and then carried on fighting, like the true Englishman he is.


Ehm, Gono threw two illegal knees. The first one didn't connect, or well it hit Hardy's palm and grazed his forearm. The second one, if it was a k-1 fight he would have beaten an 8 count.

I do agree Hardy is good and fought like a hero but there's no need in exaggerating.

EckY Big D should have been taken out to the car park and shot in the back of the head, I cant stand him.

Btw, what's this all about? He did not make any mistake in this fight in my opinion and that is what this thread is all about.

[Kamatari]

I thought Gono won that fight 29-28, so even the supposed highlight of the event turned out to be a bit of a downer. Of course everyone can concede that it was a close fight so it's not like it was a robbery. But it still sucks like the rest of the event.

I didn't watch the fight with Rogan on commentary, but was he his ridiculous anti-Gono self again?

[MZN]

I didn't watch the fight with Rogan on commentary, but was he his ridiculous anti-Gono self again?

No he didn't, actually he was quite positive but excelled in getting his bearded face up in a certain dark crevice when it came to Hardy :). Almost rightfully so but I think that both guys deserved more credit.

[aubtin]

I thought Gono won that fight 29-28, so even the supposed highlight of the event turned out to be a bit of a downer. Of course everyone can concede that it was a close fight so it's not like it was a robbery. But it still sucks like the rest of the event.

I was rooting for Hardy like an over excited school girl but I actually scored it 29-28 for Gono too. Like I said it another thread Dan was aggressive but I tought Gono landed cleaner stuff. Definitely a close one though.

[FieldingMellish]

Ehm, Gono threw two illegal knees. The first one didn't connect, or well it hit Hardy's palm and grazed his forearm. The second one, if it was a k-1 fight he would have beaten an 8 count.

I do agree Hardy is good and fought like a hero but there's no need in exaggerating.

Judging how hurt Hardy was based purely on looking at the video and comparing the knee to others you've seen doesn't really work. I know Hardy was badly hurt by that second knee (according to someone I trust who spoke to Hardy about it).

And there's often a need for exaggerating!:)

[ilostmydog]

Yeah, my bad on the knee to the head thing. I tend to get my illegal blows mixed up from time to time. :)

[EckY]

Ehm, Gono threw two illegal knees. The first one didn't connect, or well it hit Hardy's palm and grazed his forearm. The second one, if it was a k-1 fight he would have beaten an 8 count.

I do agree Hardy is good and fought like a hero but there's no need in exaggerating.



Btw, what's this all about? He did not make any mistake in this fight in my opinion and that is what this thread is all about.

Didnt do anything to wrong here, but he has fucked up way too many time in a short space of time, he doesnt deserve to be reffing fights on the big stage. Hearing his interview after the Kimbo/JT fight proved that for me.

[mugen67]

I thought Gono won that fight 29-28, so even the supposed highlight of the event turned out to be a bit of a downer. Of course everyone can concede that it was a close fight so it's not like it was a robbery. But it still sucks like the rest of the event.

I didn't watch the fight with Rogan on commentary, but was he his ridiculous anti-Gono self again?

I had Gono winning the last two rounds, and Hardy edging the first round mostly due to activity (he really didn't land much at all after the first), it seemed pretty clear cut to me.

Rogan didn't seem to have a grasp of what was happening in the fight, he appears to have a problem when it comes to calling matches that take place on the feet. He kept getting real excited every time Hardy threw anything even though Gono was making him miss and countering (apparently Hardy trained at Eddie Bravo's before the fight, not that Rogan needs an excuse to play favorites). He also kept talking about how Gono has to take him down and how he was sure that Gono did not want to stand with him (o rly? Maybe he should do a little research on the fighters, it's not like Gono is young in the game).

Goldberg was clueless as usual, talking about how much more "technical" Hardy was, because missing almost all of your strikes and getting countered is the definition of "technical".

With all of that said, I was impressed by Hardy. From what I've seen, it's between him and Bisping as far as the best MMA fighter from the UK is concerned.

As for the other matches that night, I had Bisping winning all three rounds, and I had Taylor winning two rounds to one against Lytle, but that was close and I figured they'd give it to Lytle based on "aggression" and "octagon control" (lame criteria).

[miscmisc]

Finally I watched this fight (with the commentary), and yeah, Rogan sucked as usual. You are right mugen, that guy has no fucking clue about the standup game. No fucking clue, and that becomes even clearer exactly when he isn't too "outrageous" with his calls. I'm convinced that he simply doesn't understand something real fundamental about exchanging punches and kicks.

I'm so sick of that BJJ cheerleader.

[( o Y o )]

OK, I aquired the Japanese version, so turned OFF the volume...

And still wonder how the guy outstriking the other and getting repeated takedowns loses in UFC rules.

Guess you gotta be white.

[miscmisc]

I watched Bisping vs. Leben in good resolution, and yup, I was wrong. Indeed Bisping "outboxed" Leben.

And guess what, the fight sucked even more in better video quality.

[gols]

Indeed Bisping "outboxed" Leben.

Something tells me you don't like this word...

[miscmisc]

Something tells me you don't like this word...

Damn, I thought I was being subtle! :)

Yeah, I kind of hate that word used in MMA.

[gols]

Damn, I thought I was being subtle! :)

Yeah, I kind of hate that word used in MMA.

Well, thats kinda what he did ;)

[Mato]

Gono didn't dominate by any mean but...it was pretty clear to me that he won the 2nd and 3rd rounds too. From the little i saw of Hardy i like him and this is nothing against him, but what did he do really to earn the decision? He was coming forward more and throwing more strikes but Gono made him miss a lot and clearly landed the cleaner shots. He also had the takedowns in the last two rounds. I really don't understand, but i admit i've seen much worse decisions.

And Rogan yeah...everytime he sees somebody (especially one of his favorites) "swing for the fences" he gets all wet and excited even if the guy is missing with all of his shots...and the problem for me is not that he gets excited...the problem is when he says untrue things like "he's landing some bombs" when the other guy is clearly avoiding, slipping or blocking all the shots. I don't question the guy's passion for the sport but i think that in his position he should be a little more neutral while commentating. Sometimes i like him but other times he becomes really hard to listen to for me.

And big Dan...even with the best intentions he almost injures Gono who could have landed bad and sprained his ankle, fortunately nothing happened there. Most of the times he f@cks something up but even if he doesn't...there's always something to talk about when he refs lol...no break for the dude.

[Soulrise]

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Saw this over at BloodyElbow...I haven't actually seen this fight but for chrissake that was ridiculous.

[chorb]

doesn't look like gono's updated his blog. at least no word of it at sukimma.com. i'd like to hear his account of incident. can anyone say how close the ref impact was to the bell? simultaneous, spilt second after...before..? what with rogan's aggressive disinterested commentating, a number of suspect decisions, judges making blatatnly ridiculous calls, and GETTING HIRED BACK and now, what seems like intrusive ref interference, it's getting harder to take the "greatest fighting organisation in the world" seriously.

[gols]

I don't think big Dan did anything wrong. It was just unlucky that Gono jumped at the bell.

[miscmisc]

Well, thats kinda what he did ;)

Yeah, that's kinda what a lot of guys do, too.

I guess that's why I love WEC so much (haven't missed a single event in the last several months). Guys don't do that shit as often over there.

[majorcunningham]

this was arguably fight of the night. its just a shame that my first ever live ufc event was such a snore fest.

there were about 50 people sitting near me who left before bisping even fought. these are the kind of casual fans who will never go to the ufc again, its a shame!

[kainer2]

Like pretty much all of the MMA media at the night i scored it 29-28 Hardy
Gono did nothing with his takedowns and did not follow up on a lot of his striking.

For me "UFC style" scoring goes like this

If you get takedowns make sure you keep the guy down and land damage. Don't take him down and expect it to score if the guy gets up 15-20 seconds later.

As for striking, landing the odd shot and not following up doesn't win you a fight either. You need to push the pace and Hardy kept going forward, yes he got countered but Hardy kept landing too with some heavy shots and following it up.

As for the illegal knee, Dan was seriously rocked by it and Gono should have lost a point especially as he must of fired in 2 or 3.

[( o Y o )]

As for striking, landing the odd shot and not following up doesn't win you a fight either.

Being able to take a punch shouldn't earn you any points or win you the fight either though.

[ilostmydog]

Gono said he delivered the knees because he couldn't tell if Hardy was still grounded or not, and one of his cornermen yelled to throw a knee. He forgave him for that, though, because that cornerman put on a very good performance during the pre-fight dance party.

[Global Honored]

OK, I aquired the Japanese version, so turned OFF the volume...

And still wonder how the guy outstriking the other and getting repeated takedowns loses in UFC rules.

Guess you gotta be white.

Or not Nick Diaz