How Many Fans from Japan Here?

[Haulport]

Hey There,

Just wanted to know how many people on this board actually live in Japan or speak Japanese? I did a poll on another board about preferred rule-sets and I was hoping people could make the major promotions like DREAM aware of what most fans, fighters and other promoters feel are the best rules. Thanks!

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[Haulport]

P.S. I got referred to this site from two guys on Sherdog and I'm enjoying it a lot so far!

[chorb]

hey haulport, i recognise you from sukimma. good to see you around. and good post topic. i'd vote for pride rules. or pride rules i/c elbows if i had to concede.

[( o Y o )]

welcome.

I am in Japan, though not from here.

Personally I like the current DREAM rules. I don't mind standing elbows, but I am not big on them when on the ground. We could live without stomps too IMO.

[Paxlie]

I have nothing to do with Japan whatsoever but I like boobs suggestion :)

[miscmisc]

I'm Japanese and (mostly) live in Japan, and completely agree with Boobs on all accounts.

BTW, I think Boobs' opinion is shared by a lot of Japanese fans too. There are many who don't mind elbows on the ground, but it seems that that's only because they are in the "Unified Rules" already. Just when-in-Rome-do-as-the-Romans-do type of thing, and it's not exactly that they like them so much. That's my impression.

The reason for my utter dislike for the elbows on the ground is a largely aesthetic one. They look so ugly/bleak/sissy to me.

[PRIDE_Forever]

welcome.

I am in Japan, though not from here.

Personally I like the current DREAM rules. I don't mind standing elbows, but I am not big on them when on the ground. We could live without stomps too IMO.

I agree, I think the rules DREAM has in place are the best. I hate elbows, as a lot of the fighters cut easily which often leads to quick stoppages or the fight becoming a "blood bath," which in my opinion doesn't help the sport in gaining mainstream acceptance.

[Kenshin]

Im not japanese.

Want to say my opinion though.

Soccer kicks= yes

Stomps= yes

Elbows in the stand up= yes

Elbows on the ground= no

Competent Referees= yes

[ilostmydog]

Unified w/ knees for me man. I'm no fan of the stomps/soccer kicks, and it's a fact that elbows cause far less stoppages than they are blamed for.

[PRIDE ELITIST]

Im not japanese.

Want to say my opinion though.

Soccer kicks= yes

Stomps= yes

Elbows in the stand up= yes

Elbows on the ground= no

Competent Referees= yes

I completely agree. Especially with Competent Refs.

[( o Y o )]

and it's a fact that elbows cause far less stoppages than they are blamed for.

I don't care how many stoppages they cause...they are cheap...blue collar stuff. lol

[Bangalter]

soccer kicks=no
standing elbows=yes
elbows on the ground=no
knees on the ground=yes

the ultimate set of rules for me.

[likma]

soccer kicks=no
standing elbows=yes
elbows on the ground=no
knees on the ground=yes

the ultimate set of rules for me.One more vote for this.

[tinobar]

i dont like stomps or soccer kicks thats street tactics stuff:no:

i dont care about elbows go elbow crazy or dont meh


though you got to have knees on the ground


ps iam from texas

[heckyl]

i love when people complain about rules. well complain about what i want. i want knifes and bamboo sticks in the ring that they can hit each other with. i would also like some fighters to learn fireballs n such like in street fighter II so we can make those legal too.

oh wait this was for fans from japan. my bad.

[tragicmatsu]

fireballs

+1



seriously though i'm anti elbows on the ground, andti stomps/soccer kicks and pro knees to the head of a downed opponent.

knees to the head on the ground affect the match in more ways than just another method of KO. it makes stuffing a shot even more critical in a fight. how many times have you seen a fight in the ufc where a fighter shoots, gets stuffed, and just kind of hangs out there, or gingerly gets up with no threat of being threatened in a vulnerable position. with knees to the head it just adds another strategic aspect of a fight.

[AKA]

Just like Boobs: no stomps/soccer kick and no elbows...
Elbows are ok nut not necessary.

[chorb]

arona vs silva I:

- arona gets first knockdown off the hard leg kick that buckles silva
- silva falls back
- arona pauses half second, charges, goes for stomp

it was fast as hell and intense. 30 seconds tops, maybe less. the intensity came from the smooth transition from standing to fighter going down, to standing fighter charging directly into another attack. it quickens the pace. the grounded fighter has to be more accountable with soccer kicks and stomps in the available arsenal. downed fighters can't catch a quick breather. the threat is more imminent.

i'd go with Kenshin:

Soccer kicks= yes

Stomps= yes

Elbows in the stand up= yes

Elbows on the ground= no

Competent Referees= yes

[dragomort]

Anderson Silva cries whenever you try to eliminate his elbows :( I say no to stomps/soccerkicks to the head (although I don't mind them to the body, actually) and that's about it. Out of the options, I suppose that puts me at unified w/ knees.

[Kenshin]

i dont like stomps or soccer kicks thats street tactics stuff:no:



Oh and i always thought MMA is about simulating a ""realistic fight", yea you could actually say street fight.

[Shiruba]

I'm not Japanese but I want knees, stomps, soccer kicks, elbows and 10 minute rounds. I wouldn't cry if they left out stomps though.

[Haulport]

arona vs silva I:

- arona gets first knockdown off the hard leg kick that buckles silva
- silva falls back
- arona pauses half second, charges, goes for stomp

it was fast as hell and intense. 30 seconds tops, maybe less. the intensity came from the smooth transition from standing to fighter going down, to standing fighter charging directly into another attack. it quickens the pace. the grounded fighter has to be more accountable with soccer kicks and stomps in the available arsenal. downed fighters can't catch a quick breather. the threat is more imminent.

i'd go with Kenshin:

Soccer kicks= yes

Stomps= yes

Elbows in the stand up= yes

Elbows on the ground= no

Competent Referees= yes

Hi chorb. We are in agreement re: the fluid pace of the fight and how soccer kicks and stomps allow that to happen. They also are a strategy unto themselves. In his fight with Diabate, Shogun was having trouble with Cyril's reach and when he took him down he couldn't do anything in his long guard. So he would take him down and create a scramble and look for soccer kicks during the scramble. He did this three times and won via tko on the 3rd try. You could never do this with just knees.

As far as elbows...I'm all for them. A poster on Fightopinion did an analysis and out of about 1000 fights in the UFC over three years there were only two fights stopped from elbow caused cuts (and one might have been caused by a punch). They are fight finishers and I am a vale tudo kinda guy : )

[tinobar]

Oh and i always thought MMA is about simulating a ""realistic fight", yea you could actually say street fight.

yo man never kick a man when he is down

[Kenshin]

yo man never kick a man when he is down

High five homie *clap*

But i don't talk about some stupid unnecessary fight, i talk about for example when the russian mafia sends out 3 of his biggest bad boys to you to get ya ass as a trophy and now don't tell me i shouldn't kick and stomp those bastards when i have the oppurtunity to do.