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Shiruba
3rd June 2008, 10:18 AM
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/gryphonjapan/

Starting from 2009, when a fighter is dropped, no counts, just go at him.
mugen67
3rd June 2008, 07:41 PM
about time
aubtin
3rd June 2008, 10:44 PM
It'll be weird not hearing "DOWN!" in a Shooto fight but it's for the best. As long as the catch rule stays I'm happy.
( o Y o )
3rd June 2008, 11:30 PM
nice improvement
PRIDE_Forever
4th June 2008, 02:09 AM
nice improvement

I agree. I love Shooto, but I was never a big fan of that rule.
Lord Gaul
4th June 2008, 03:02 AM
I am glad the rule is gone, but it was for put in place for amatuer MMA so I have no real problem with the attempt to make it more different then other pro organizations. But MMA isn't supposed to be stopped so it is a good thing the rule is gone.
ilostmydog
4th June 2008, 03:07 AM
I just hope they don't outlaw strikes to the back of the head.
bero
4th June 2008, 06:12 AM
what about standing 8-count?
Jarzi
4th June 2008, 07:07 AM
Good to hear.
Shiruba
6th June 2008, 10:05 PM
I just hope they don't outlaw strikes to the back of the head.
Seems that they are also gone.
Fozzy
6th June 2008, 11:14 PM
ooo interesting rule change. you start moving across the country and you miss out on all the goss XD

~Foz
Grant Ellis
7th June 2008, 07:57 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=13082

Fighters reactions, and an article by MSIA.
Haulport
9th June 2008, 01:11 AM
THANK GOD!
tastetehrainbow
9th June 2008, 01:45 AM
Ishida and kawajiri thumping dudes in the brain stem was truly a pleasure to watch. Shooto rules will be missed.
Atze
9th June 2008, 09:40 AM
I really dont like the no strikes to the back of the head rule.
Long Fist
9th June 2008, 10:40 AM
I really dont like the no strikes to the back of the head rule.

I think it makes perfect sense to ban them. But one thing that sometimes bothers me is the way the rules that forbid strikes to the back allow the use of turning back or turtling up as a defense, which is something that deviates from the idea that MMA should be as close to real fight as possible. To me, turtling up looks almost like giving up. Maybe there could be point deductions?
Atze
9th June 2008, 10:44 AM
I think it makes perfect sense to ban them. But one thing that sometimes bothers me is the way the rules that forbid strikes to the back allow the use of turning back or turtling up as a defense, which is something that deviates from the idea that MMA should be as close to real fight as possible. To me, turtling up looks almost like giving up. Maybe there could be point deductions?

There hasnt been a serious injury due to punches to the back of the head in almost 20 years of Shooto if somebody gets injured than they can talk about it not out of the blue like right now.