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( o Y o )
15th April 2008, 02:50 PM
Doesn't really deserve its own thread, but I am still too tired to carefully read others and see what has been covered. I also don't know what was shown and what wasn't.

Firstly, I hope that is the last we see of Kyoung. Another waste of ring entrance time really, when there are so many actual fighters out there dying for their chance to get in the ring.

Nakasako fought well, and as usual for him, was confident against a Japanese opponent. Sato had a great first round which he won (technically 9-10, 10-10, 10-10 for Sato), got caught in the second, and seemed to run out of steam in the third. I think he improved a good deal since I last saw him fight, but I guess Nakasako's 10 years more experience was the deciding factor.

Takahashi vs Enokida was...well...entertaining I guess. In a total of 40 seconds there were three downs, and the last left Takahashi KTFO.

Chalid vs Aleks was a good technical fight, but the extra rounds were never needed. Aleks did lose a chance of really getting the crowd behind him though as they loved every high/spinning kick he threw....he just didn't throw enough I guess.

The PFI has Chalid saying he doesn't think Aleks is a top 16 fighter, but I think this is a slight miss-quote as it was translated from English to Japanese, then back to English by a different person.

What Chalid did make clear though, was that Musashi never gave him his shoes after he beat him, and he laughed and said Musashi must be tight.

Dracula vs Noda....not really much to say here. Was a slog-fest without stamina. I was very happy Dracula didn't fall face first at the end though as that would have been very dangerous.

Mo vs Maeda........not sure how the hell Fujimoto got warned for a lack of action and Maeda was permitted to run, clinch all night. A lot of people are saying Mo saying he was sick is bullshit, but he was in fact sick. I still don't see how he could lose that fight though.

Glaube vs Alex....wow, what a KO. It was quite the mismatch in the end though as other than a minute or so at the begining, it looked to be like Glaube just coasted by. Alex was fine post fight too, which was great to see.

Ray vs Hari was obviously the hardest for me to watch. This was one of those win/win match ups for K-1, and Hari really stepped up to the plate. I have watched Ray training before a few fights, and on the pads etc he looked as good as I have seen him. He made no excuses, was in great condition, and actually went back to the gym the next morning. It looked harsh, but he was completely OK after the fight...just got caught between distances and couldn't recover. Props to Hari for being the first of the new generation to really make a run at things.

Musashi vs Sawayaksjifjemnandhf7hr$3 was good for me in one regard, and bad in another. I wanted to see the newcomer do well, but believe Musashi has done enough for the company over the years that he deserves better than being cast aside which I think may have happened if he lost. And doing it aggressively as well. I believe Tanikawa said both would be in the Japan GP.

Fujimoto lost due to have what Norikawa Fujiwara delicately described as having "no heart" yet again. The fight was not the most exciting, and I understand many expected a lot from Teixeira, but what you cannot see on TV is the incredible pressure he was under to represent Kyokushin, and do so well. What most people also don't understand is his preperation time for his first K-1 fight was significantly less than Filho had. Obviously his hands, and overall distancing needs lots of work, but there were glimpses of gold in there.

Semmy is the man. Hunt said he didn't even notice the kick until he heard the ref say "8" and he noticed he was on the ground. That was when his wind started coming back. He said the initial movement he saw from Sem made him think a spinning backfist was coming. Again, lots of people seem to think he milked the down for an easy way out, but he appeared very sad at having lost.

Sem actually gave a decent post fight interview. When he was told Tanikawa said they were having trouble finding opponents that would face him, he just said "thats not my problem" with a big grin. I asked about MMA and threw out Fedor and Mirko and he said he would fight whoever, under whatever rules FEG tells him to do.

As a total event, I think it fell short of last years by quite a way. Match making has to take some of the blame for that. There were some real highlights (or lowlights, depending on who you like :-P), but there were long periods where it felt kinda flat. I am sure I am missing something, but thats it for now.

Kenshin
15th April 2008, 03:02 PM
Nice read mate. I think it's clear that this Yokohama Event wasn't that good like the last year but hey, the last year was just insane with all that highlights and memorable moments and things, so it was really clear to me that this cannot be topped. Still was a good event in my eyes.

( o Y o )
15th April 2008, 03:04 PM
I think it's clear that this Yokohama Event wasn't that good like the last year but hey, the last year was just insane with all that highlights and memorable moments and things, so it was really clear to me that this cannot be topped. Still was a good event in my eyes.

Last years was always going to be hard to beat. I think even keeping the same fighters they had, but mixing up the opponents might have produced more fireworks though. Overall, some great matches though.

K1power
15th April 2008, 06:13 PM
Nice read mate!

About Mo being sick for real. If you say so I have no doubt he really was sick, but he has an excuse after every loss while he has himself to blame for not being prepared and not trying his absolute best to improve.

I feel the same way you do about the Musashi vs Sawayashiki fight. Glad that Musashi got his spark back, but at the same time a bit sad Junichi lost.

Just as for you Sefo vs Hari was absolutely horrible to watch for me.

Also, I've rewatched Sem vs Hunt a good couple of times and while I realise how terrible the impact must've been, it still looks to me as if Hunt could have gotten up earlier.

As a whole I really liked the show though. Not every single fight was great, but there were some hard KO's and in the end the best men won their fights.

BTW Even just wachting the broadcast I could notice under what pressure Teixeira must have been. I mean, when the camera switched to Filho and the older Japanese guy (that's he one you're talking about, right?) I got the feeling a lot was depending on how Ewerton would perform and their looks were self-explanatory.

Mago
15th April 2008, 10:20 PM
Well, I never really understood what's the matter between Hyokushin and K1, it's some kind of love-hate realationship, but imagine this: Teixeira wins by impressive fashion the traditional Karate GP, the second foreign ever to do it, is on top of the Karate world right now, and then gets KOed silly by a mid level Fujimoto in the K1 ring... It would be disastrous for their reputation I guess, I don't believe people would even care about the true conditions behind this fight... If Teixeira lost or got himself KTFO, the shame would be so much to carry, no one would be able to see past the fact that he's the current kyokushin champion and should never loose that fight - if it was me I would probably stay away fom ANY contact just like Filho - Bernardo and cut any risk, which he didn't do, on the contrary, brought the fight to Fuji and got him KOed with punches, so big props to him.

BTW: He had him with the inside low kicks too, Fuji was looking about to give up from it, so it's also a positive note.

Anjew
15th April 2008, 10:41 PM
Nice summary oYo, thanks.

Well, I'd say Sem vs Hari in a while (maybe this year's final tournament) will be interesting to watch...

( o Y o )
16th April 2008, 12:27 AM
About Mo being sick for real. If you say so I have no doubt he really was sick, but he has an excuse after every loss while he has himself to blame for not being prepared and not trying his absolute best to improve.

Agreed.

Nice read mate!
Just as for you Sefo vs Hari was absolutely horrible to watch for me.


I read somewhere here that someone said they could see fear in Sefo's eyes in the promo video, which I can say could not be more wrong. He was chomping at the bit to get into the ring and fight, and was really looking forward to it.

I think I also read you said his post fight comments made it sound like he didn't care about the loss, but again I think this comes down to the translation. He did care of course, but gave Hari his props for the win, talked about the fight, and then looked towards the future. Just like Hunt said " my gameplan was to catch him, but he caught me first."

Also, I've rewatched Sem vs Hunt a good couple of times and while I realise how terrible the impact must've been, it still looks to me as if Hunt could have gotten up earlier.

I hear you because I felt the same way watching it live, but seeing how disappointed he seemed post fight changed my feelings.

BTW Even just wachting the broadcast I could notice under what pressure Teixeira must have been. I mean, when the camera switched to Filho and the older Japanese guy (that's he one you're talking about, right?) I got the feeling a lot was depending on how Ewerton would perform and their looks were self-explanatory.

I actually felt a little sorry for him because of the huge pressure he was under....but then at least he had an easier initial fight than Filho or Glaube did.

Lord Gaul
16th April 2008, 01:27 AM
You know I felt that the pressure on Monster was huge. They kept showing all the Kyrokushin guys in the audience, and he came to the ring as deep as a Miami street gang. I to noticed the glimpses of gold, but I was realistic come fight time that it is going to take a little time. He has good tools though so with patients he will fill in nice.

I was nuetral in Hari/Sefo, but I did want him to come back once he was hurt. I thought Hari was fantastic and he deserves every bit of the talk he is getting know.

El Presidente
16th April 2008, 02:21 AM
Tex needs to get his timing and distance right. He's used to the up-close chest-to-chest Kyokushin pummelling to set up his kicks. So... he's gonna take some work.

Cant really compage him to Glaube as Glaube has always been a long to medium range fighter. He's been using that kick since his karate days and early days in K-1. So it was just a case of fine tuning him in the end... though to be honest I was kinda expecting him to fade into obscurity at some point after that loss to Holm. But outta nowhere he suddenly reappeared and KOed Pavel Majer something horrific.

He's definitely top tier at this point - though he is still lacking a juicy win over a legend or proven veteran. Had he anticipated Aerts in the 2006 GP he probably wouldve beaten him soundly. And he's the only one so far to really, and I mean REALLY give it to Schilt - his Ichigekick landing flush in every one of their encounters.

I would like to see Glaube tested more against the vets. Like LeBanner and Leko - even Might Mo. A match against Pettas or Graham would also be a good angle as they are ex-Kyokushin, and he has beaten both of them in Kyokushin tournaments.

I would hate for Tex to become another Filho. Filho became well, Filho after KO losses to Bernardo and Lebanner. If he gets thrown to the wolves, lions, sharks at this point before he's settled into a productive style then we will have another maddenly passive counter-puncher on our hands.

( o Y o )
17th April 2008, 02:40 PM
way late as I got caught up with more important stuff, but I just threw up some pix from the press conference here: http://kakutougi.info/component/option,com_rsgallery/catid,37/limit,15/limitstart,0/

Shinbone
17th April 2008, 06:29 PM
It was me who wrote about Sefo and the fear. In his pre fight interview ( not press conference) if you look carefully, I saw he was not convinced. I'm not saying he was affraid of had fear or something, but to me it looked like he was uncertain about if he could win etc.

K1power
17th April 2008, 08:46 PM
It was me who wrote about Sefo and the fear. In his pre fight interview ( not press conference) if you look carefully, I saw he was not convinced. I'm not saying he was affraid of had fear or something, but to me it looked like he was uncertain about if he could win etc.

I agree, looked like Sefo lost his heart...

( o Y o )
18th April 2008, 01:23 AM
I met up with Ray about 3 weeks before the fight, spoke to him several times during his training, and then spent 3 days with him leading up to the fight and I can tell you he was very confident and totally ready mentally for the fight. There was absolutely no fear at all. I have known Ray since about 2002 and can say that the most pumped I have ever seen him for a fight was against Semmy last year. This was not far off.

In fact, many people were saying the scared one was Badr by the way he was acting towards Ray in the hotel before the fight and the fact he avoided all eye contact during the press conference.

Global Honored
18th April 2008, 02:25 AM
Blasphemy! Badr Hari knows no fear!

I do hope for the best for Ray's future. He has been a great fighter and figure for K-1 internationally. A true sportsman. If he has more left, great..if not, what a great run.

( o Y o )
18th April 2008, 03:12 AM
Blasphemy! Badr Hari knows no fear!

LOL....while I understand you are joking, if you were going to judge how someone was feeling before a fight based on their body language, it was clearly Badr that was not looking like himself.

Global Honored
19th April 2008, 12:09 AM
Hari must've seen the size of that gun Ray carries.

( o Y o )
19th April 2008, 03:05 AM
Hari must've seen the size of the guns Ray carries.

corrected for ya

heckyl
19th April 2008, 03:29 AM
corrected for ya

correct it the right way then ya bugger!



Hari must've seen the size of the guns that Ray carries.

:X

( o Y o )
19th April 2008, 03:39 AM
Hari must've seen the size of the guns that Ray carries.

:X

Absolutely no idea what you are talking about.






:P

heckyl
19th April 2008, 03:45 AM
*drinks another beer*


Takahashi is a horrible fighter, btw. he landed 3 jabs got 2 knockdowns and still lost. yeesh.

( o Y o )
19th April 2008, 03:58 AM
he is a baseball player....so I expected little more from him

His opponent has to go down with having the weakest jaw ever though. Not glass. Maybe that sugar glass they use in movies.

Lord Gaul
19th April 2008, 04:11 AM
^^Or cotton candy maybe.

heckyl
19th April 2008, 04:17 AM
retired baseball player i hope...?

( o Y o )
19th April 2008, 12:47 PM
retired baseball player i hope...?


yep

Lawrence Tierney
19th April 2008, 03:48 PM
I just got a chance to see the tv broadcast so I'll add a few observations.

Can't say Semmy- Hunt was too surprising, it would have been a tough match for Hunt if he were in prime shape, but being a half step slower than he was in his kickboxing days is too much of a disadvantage against a workhorse like Semmy.

If I had known that Musashi would change to a Central American looking mullet hairstyle, I would have bet on him instead of Sawafah89e4qfh0. Musashi proved he's still the standard for Japanese heavyweights. Its interesting how he changes his fighting style from a rabbit against the bigger guys, and the k.o. machine against the smaller fighters.

It looked like Roberts had a good game plan against Glaube, crowding him and
keeping him off balance with punch combos. The only problem was that he couldn't block Glaube's uppercuts. That softened him up and moved him back into Glaube's striking distance.

I think Ray was doing ok with his gameplan against Badr, letting him come in
and then countering with big punches. He even knocked Hari back a meter or two with counters that were blocked a couple of times. But Hari was able to use his height advantage and landed that big clean knee, and it didn't look like Ray ever recovered. I still don't think Hari has the power to hurt
Ray with punching alone. Im still skeptical that Hari can win top level tournaments at this point.

I was surprised how good Texeira's boxing defense was, but disappointed how
poor his kicks were. He didnt even turn his hip over on most of his roundhouse
kicks. Maybe he will get better as he gets more comfortable with kickboxing rules. What is the problem with Fujimoto's balance? It seems like he can barely stand up by the third round of a fight. He seems to really fall apart as soon as he gets a little tired. I don't know if he lacks heart, I think there is a physical problem somewhere.

sparkles
19th April 2008, 05:18 PM
What channel was that?

Lawrence Tierney
20th April 2008, 01:08 AM
I don't even know, I just get a dvd of the broadcast from a Japanese video store.

( o Y o )
20th April 2008, 02:31 AM
FujiTV

Dado
20th April 2008, 06:20 AM
I still don't think Hari has the power to hurt
Ray with punching alone. Im still skeptical that Hari can win top level tournaments at this point.

This doesent make sense to me as Ray's fate was sealed in the first 10 seconds of the fight when Badr drilled him with the right straight as Ray went for a left hook. Both knockdowns were also a result of punches.

( o Y o )
20th April 2008, 06:22 AM
This doesent make sense to me as Ray's fate was sealed in the first 10 seconds of the fight when Badr drilled him with the right straight as Ray went for a left hook. Both knockdowns were also a result of punches.

Were we watching the same fight?

Lawrence Tierney
20th April 2008, 07:14 PM
Ray wasnt hurt at all until he caught that big knee to the forehead. After that he never recovered fully. At that point any clean blow was enough to put him down. At the beginning of the fight he was more than willing to let Badr run in and hit him, since he loves to counter. He wouldn't have been throwing counter punches so quickly if he were hurt .